IF YOU DRIVE AN FJ YOU MIGHT BE A SISSY

[HummerNewbie]

Originally Posted by Dragon

Well, just like any forum, there are some people who make sense and there are some people who simply open their mouths to change feet. Is the FJ the ultimate driving machine? Nope. Neither is the Hummer. Neither is the LandRover Defender 90. Neither is the Audi R10 or the Aston Martin DBR9.

Not sure any here said that Hummers were the ultimate driving machine but you are correct, none of them are. Unfortunately there are too many blindly brand loyal people out there that can't see anything for what it is worth other than what they drive.

Originally Posted by Dragon

To me it is foolish to criticize FJ owners or FJ's. To me it is just as foolish to criticize Hummer owners or Hummers. I think what we can all agree on, is that someone who buys an offroad vehicle just to look cool going to the golf course is nothing but a poser. But this is 2006, and if someone wishes to be a poser it is their right as well.

I would say that most of the members on this forum would love to wheel with an FJ just to see what it can do. Hell, I just want someone to go wheeling with so bring on the FJs! I would also say that most here, myself included, do not like the looks of the FJ. Not that it matters if we like it's looks or not because we bought Hummers. The only person's opinion that really matters regarding what you drive is you. I have a buddy that bought one and I give him a hard time but it is just good natured ribbing. Now I did drive my Hummer to the golf course yesterday but I won't take offense to your comment because that is not why I bought it

Originally Posted by Dragon

What the world needs less of is criticism and condescending remarks. In the famous words of Mr King, "Why can't we all just get along?"

I agree but you also need to spread this wisdom to the FJ forum. I have not posted over there but I see plenty of Hummer bashing going on over there and it was not in response to trolls.

Originally Posted by Dragon

I don't like Hummers.

And I don't like FJs but to each their own.
BTW, lets see some wheeling pics. We all love those

[BlueTJCO]

but I love my Jeep

[Ipedog]

Originally Posted by Mooncricket

but I love my Jeep

Ummm YUK!

[usetosellhummer]

please don't no please don't

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by Dragon

Well, just like any forum, there are some people who make sense and there are some people who simply open their mouths to change feet. Is the FJ the ultimate driving machine? Nope. Neither is the Hummer. Neither is the LandRover Defender 90. Neither is the Audi R10 or the Aston Martin DBR9.

It's all about give and take. To gain speed, you lose off road performance. To gain off road performance you lose a good highway ride.

So why do you buy a vehicle? Are you liquid enough to have a ride for every season? Some of you might be, but most of the world is not. What the FJ Cruiser IS, is an "out of the box" vehicle that is very capable off road. It is also very capable on road.

A Hummer gear head or a Jeep gear head or an FJ gear head can modify their vehicles to be Scorpion like, and climb up a cliff face, but then it has only a resemblence to what it was when it was purchased.

To me it is foolish to criticize FJ owners or FJ's. To me it is just as foolish to criticize Hummer owners or Hummers. I think what we can all agree on, is that someone who buys an offroad vehicle just to look cool going to the golf course is nothing but a poser. But this is 2006, and if someone wishes to be a poser it is their right as well.

What the world needs less of is criticism and condescending remarks. In the famous words of Mr King, "Why can't we all just get along?"

I don't like Hummers. But I will die for your right to buy them and enjoy them. I like FJ Cruisers. Toyota has been good to me. I hope you would respect my right to do so.

Take a long look at that FJ forum and the offroad knowledge flowing there. There are the noobs and the trolls there, just as there are here, but there is also an incredible contingent of those who love the outdoors and want to enjoy it in a vehicle that takes them to it. I think there are some of those here as well.

Rant over.
Peace

Oh just shut the fck up and smoke a joint. If you want to go rub dicks with your fck job lovebuddies, by all means, do so. Don't "arrive" in a thread using your first post as some condescending commentary about how you discredit the condescension that has been flung toward your sacred sh!tmobile.

If anyone has any right to talk about another vehicle, it is us, the Hummer owners. We certainly have the prerogative to do so within the confines of a forum geared toward our own vehicle. Now as to why the FJ is sorely discussed here it is because one of your brethren has attempted to shove it down our collective throats as something it can only dream of being in it's Initials Heyday. It was strategically saddled with the term "Cruiser" for a very specific reason and that's because it does not share the heritage of it's Initialed namesake. Which is in stark contrast to what dumbvalley has lied and ignorantly attempted to convey here.

So, here "dragon" punk moves in with some olive branch piece offering that smacks of the BS that dickvalley has endeavored to shovel since the announcement that the little blue pimple-mobile was growing it's anal warts.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by Alec W

You could say the same about a Hummer H2 or H3

No I couldn't

[NEOCON1]

sacred sh!tmobile

LMFAO , i busted up when i read that LOL , good one

[The Green Lantern]

how do you like my new ride!! Moab here I come......

[Dragon]

...and Paragon proves my point. Thank You!! Would you like a bit of Tobasco to go with those feet of yours?

[DTHVLY]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

It was strategically saddled with the term "Cruiser" for a very specific reason and that's because it does not share the heritage of it's Initialed namesake. Which is in stark contrast to what dumbvalley has lied and ignorantly attempted to convey here.

The FJ Cruiser has a lot more in common with the FJ40 than the H2/H3 has in common with the HMMWV/H1. The only similarities between the H2/H3 and the HMMWV/H1 are they begin with the letter H, beyond that they have absolutely zero in common, they aren?t even made by the same company so in essence by your logic the H2/H3 are the ultimate phony, poser, wannabe rip-off vehicles out there.

[blindzebra]

ummm, doesn't the sticker on the jam of your 2 say assembled by AM General?

[DDWH]

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

The FJ Cruiser has a lot more in common with the FJ40 than the H2/H3 has in common with the HMMWV/H1. The only similarities between the H2/H3 and the HMMWV/H1 are they begin with the letter H, beyond that they have absolutely zero in common, they aren?t even made by the same company so in essence by your logic the H2/H3 are the ultimate phony, poser, wannabe rip-off vehicles out there.

Still a clueless troll I see.........

[NEOCON1]

heres a stuck one

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

The FJ Cruiser has a lot more in common with the FJ40 than the H2/H3 has in common with the HMMWV/H1. The only similarities between the H2/H3 and the HMMWV/H1 are they begin with the letter H, beyond that they have absolutely zero in common, they aren?t even made by the same company so in essence by your logic the H2/H3 are the ultimate phony, poser, wannabe rip-off vehicles out there.

Ok Dennis, now it's just not fun any more. That was just silly.

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

Ok Dennis, now it's just not fun any more. That was just silly.

did some dude north of the border join a canadian KY club ?????????

[DTHVLY]

Originally Posted by PhilD

You really are clueless aren't you?

Apart from some design cues, there is no similarity between an FJC and a real FJ.

The HMMVW and H2 are made by the same American company, AM General.

I think you should just give up on your FJC sales pitch and go whence you came.

Yes the H2 plant is located on the AM General complex in Indiana so technically it is made by AMG but make no mistake it?s a GM owned vehicle built with GM parts by GM trained employees.

The FJ doesn?t share any parts with the FJ40 after all the last time the 40 was produced was over 20 years ago but at least they are both conventional vehicles that have a steel body and a drive train under the body with at least one solid axle. The HMMWV/H1 is by no means a conventional vehicle it has an aluminum body, a drive train tucked into the cabin, and a fully independent suspension with geared hubs. The H2 has more in common with the FJ than it has with the H1.

[NEOCON1]

atleast its not named FAKE JEEP does anyone wheel them besides this same sponsered vehicle you keep posting . i can get a pic of robby gordons race h3 from paris-dakkar and spew the same idiotic bs . you go now and suck some koc

[NEOCON1]

hey a$$-bite lets play , show me your sponsered truck doin this sh1t head