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Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
Yep Yep...Revolver is a no brainer. Point and shoot!
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07-24-2006, 08:33 PM
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Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
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That's a good idea, I've got a bunch of target shooting friends. I'll just borrow there's (done it before, but just for goofing around).
Won't get a Glock - too light. I light a heavy gun, the glocks feel a little too plasticy. Might just be me - haven't shot one before, but I've started looking and haven't found one I like.
don't know what any of that +p+jhp means, but my Karr kicked like a bish and I hated 2 shots in a row, I could never bring it back on target for the 2nd shot. What is a +jhp load?
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Sorry for the late reply .. spent the weekend moving. JHP are jacketed hollow points. +P basically means higher pressure and yields higher velocity (for greater penetration). +P+ is an ultra-high pressure load.
It looks like you're on the right track toward picking a defensive pistol. You need a good size round (.40 or larger) in a pistol you're comfortable with (fits in your hand, easy to unsafe, fits your shooting style), with a recoil that gives you accurate follow-up shots.
I'm a big believer in double-taps. Your first shot has to be on target, but if you can re-acquire and fire again, you're more likely to bring down your assailant ... 2 or 4 legged.
As for hardball v hollow-point ammo, hollow-points are great for the amount of damage they can do once inside you. But they can shatter on bones, whereas hardball has a better chance of breaking the bone (or penetrating the skull) and doing it. Soft points in some ways are the best of both worlds. They will spread out for more damage on impact, but don't shatter or split easily when they hit bone.
I love my semi-autos, but you really should test-fire a few revolvers. They don't jam, there's no safety to forget, and they're very accurate with good recoil control. 357s are cool, cause you can practice with the cheaper .38 special round, but you can carry your higher-powered .357s for defense. As for bullet capacity ... I've been told that if you can't solve your problem with 6 rounds, you're dead anyway.
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07-24-2006, 09:55 PM
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Further, firing your handgun madly like a machine gun is not the way to win a gun fight. Shooting with a decent caliber and making every shot count is the way to go. Trust me, you won't feel the recoil of a 9mm, .40, or .45 when someone is shooting back at you. Not one bit.
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X2! The most Critical---Or Terminal!---statement yet!
As a defensive weapon, the wheel gun, (DBL Action) can't be beat..imo---And, As far as This topic anyway!
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Firing your handgun madly like a machine gun
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lol, Yer out of bullets pilgrim! gotta use them Wisely!
Since the Leaf lickers, southern implants, enviros, and, animal groups (terrorists) have taken over and changed....Well, just about everything! There's an OVER population of Mtn. Lions And Bears here---The same one are now complaining of Being stalked, attacked, mauled, and killed, since the Do Gooders DID their Thing!
This cat we figured close to 150#---And WILL flat FK you up!, if your the Unlucky recipient! I was tracking a cat one time, Only to discover---an hour later--I was the one Being Tracked!
What I'm getting at is the Other Critters to be aware of--What's In Your Neck Of The Woods!?? Kinda thing!----I Hate Badgers! They Scare The $hit out of Me!---And the First 44 round REALLY PISSES Them Off!!--Mtn. Lion is next, SWIFT & SILENT!--Damn good looking Cat Tho!--Snakes!..Next to Badgers!.......Snakes!....I Hate Snakes!--They Get TWO!....More if I shiver!..I ALWAYS, Shiver!--Carry Extra Snake Loads!--Shiver, Damn!--And almost last on my Vermin aware List, is the Three Legged One! (Two Leggers are less Likely to attack!) And controlled Knock Down Power Is A MUST!......Then I Might Worry About BEARS! Happy Camping!
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07-24-2006, 10:02 PM
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Cat 2
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07-24-2006, 10:09 PM
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Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
Camping/Fishing Gear, and When the bullets are gone!??...Need Fire Wood!...Or Bear Steak! ( cuz you had to take it down with your knife, Due to Killing to many Snakes And Badgers! that ya run out!)....Or, whatever! Ya Just Gotta Have a GOOD Knife, Or Three!
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07-24-2006, 10:16 PM
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I went Bird Hunting ONE TIME!......................But They Didn't want me to go again! I Just Don't Get It!
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07-24-2006, 10:26 PM
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When the bullets are gone!??...Need Fire Wood!...Or Bear Steak! ( cuz you had to take it down with your knife, Due to Killing to many Snakes And Badgers! that ya run out!)....Or, whatever! Ya Just Gotta Have a GOOD Knife, Or Three!
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surprised not to see a K-bar there
We have cat tracks like that, of the black variety. But very very few. If you see one in your lifetime here, it's something. Just finding tracks is rare. But hearing one "scream" at night is something you'll not likely forget.
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07-24-2006, 10:48 PM
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Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
Paragon,
Your thoughts on hunting knives? Any suggestions?
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surprised not to see a K-bar there
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Keep the K-Bar with.....Other Gear!
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07-25-2006, 12:22 AM
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Roger that
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07-25-2006, 01:58 AM
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Guys: Sorry for being a dunce. How do I insert a picture into my post in this new website?
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Guys: Sorry for being a dunce. How do I insert a picture into my post in this new website?
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click on "manage attachments"
wait..... click on the to A/ A 's in the upper right of the reply screen and make sure you are in the "advanced mode" and then scroll below the "submit reply" button and click on the "manage attachments" button.
I think you'll get it from there.
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07-25-2006, 03:56 AM
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Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
Thanks Paragon.
Now that I'm empowered, YOU BUNCH OF WUSSIES.
THIS IS WHAT I CALL REAL FIREPOWER.
I AIN'T 'FRAID 'O NO STINKIN BEAR.
Best regards,
George SSSS
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07-25-2006, 06:24 AM
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Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
My .44 Magnum is too big and heavy to carry around at the cabin. Had five bears roaming around the cabin 2 years ago.
Last summer the next door neighbor had a bear jump on the deck while she was reading on the deck.
I looked at one of these tonight, looked good.
Model: 500
Caliber: .500
Capacity: 5 Rounds
Barrel Length: 4"
Weight Empty: 56 oz
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Nice gun, but I'd personally fear the recoil than the bear I'm shooting, especially with a 4" barrel!
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07-25-2006, 06:45 AM
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Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
Hopefully, the bear spray will do its job first
And we're only three lots away from the resort on the lake, but still in the woods.
About three miles from the west entrance to Glacier Park.
Last year in the fall, while we were blowing the water out of the plumbing in the cabin - at night in the dark, something was tipping over trash cans two cabins away
Went and strapped on the .44, man that was heavy...
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We have cat tracks like that, of the black variety. But very very few. If you see one in your lifetime here, it's something. Just finding tracks is rare. But hearing one "scream" at night is something you'll not likely forget.
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LOL, the tracks above were in my front yard!..He was Hunting! And cats were the menu, (although I'm sure he wouldn't have turned down a tasty pooch, or kid!) as there are to many strays around--Idiot neighbors were turned in for abuse, (as seen on TV stuff!) luved all couple dozen of them critters!...A$$ Holes!----Anyway, there just getting thick as ticks around here! (cats Too)---I bet they have 5 or 6 rug rats a couple houses down! ---Can't blame the cats! Call-ee-FOR-nya meat is plentiful!
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Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
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Thanks Paragon.
Now that I'm empowered, YOU BUNCH OF WUSSIES.
THIS IS WHAT I CALL REAL FIREPOWER.
I AIN'T 'FRAID 'O NO STINKIN BEAR.
Best regards,
George SSSS
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Now that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!!!!!(Ebonics. Like it? )
Great picture!
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07-25-2006, 08:21 AM
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Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
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My .44 Magnum is too big and heavy to carry around at the cabin. Had five bears roaming around the cabin 2 years ago.
Last summer the next door neighbor had a bear jump on the deck while she was reading on the deck.
I looked at one of these tonight, looked good.
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Model: 500
Caliber: .500
Capacity: 5 Rounds
Barrel Length: 4"
Weight Empty: 56 oz
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Getting one of these VERY SOON! Hope the shipment is in!...out the last time in store.
This IS, your BEST BEAR STOPPER To Date!--STOCK!--Will comment on the recoil soon!
Been checking out some Hunts in Texas. Would be great to Spit A Pig! while there! Yam! Yam!---And a good test for the 500!
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07-25-2006, 11:02 AM
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Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
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Getting one of these VERY SOON! Hope the shipment is in!...out the last time in store.
This IS, your BEST BEAR STOPPER To Date!--STOCK!--Will comment on the recoil soon!
Been checking out some Hunts in Texas. Would be great to Spit A Pig! while there! Yam! Yam!---And a good test for the 500!
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Big Z: I'm particularly interested in the effect of the recoil compensator. Be sure to give us some focus on that when you write your report.
Thanks,
George SSSS
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