I BET THEY WISH THEY HAD AN H2!

[crash]

You mean assembled in the US...
Sorry, but only about half of that rig is made in the US, other goes from mexico to canada..
There are even a few modules made in singapore...


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Buckeye Hummer:
Nice write-off for my business (around 26k). I even considered buying an H1 and placing company stickers all over it like a billboard. We can use the 100k write-off! Thanks to George there is no tax benefit to buying a light-duty tacoma.

Gas is a business expense like SJ said. It feels good to support jobs in Indiana and my Dad's retirement I am even considering buying my wife an H2 SUT. She currently has a Tahoe but I want something heavier/safer to tote my 2 yr. old around in.

BTW, every time my son sees a hummer he says "Daddy's Truck!" Makes me proud to buy an American made vehicle and pass those values along to my son like my father did me.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

certified H2 tech.

[SJ]

crash:

The parts content is almost entirely American. The throttle sensor is from Hitachi, but you can source the technology and engineering from right here in the States.

There are exceptions to the rule. I'm aware that there's cross-pollinization among Ford and Mazda; GM and Isuzu; and others. However, we must look at the absolute when it comes to the H2:

- Designed by Americans
- Corporate base in America
- Product Control is American
- Produced in an American Factory
- Majority of Parts Content is American
- Revenue goes to an American Corp. [GM]

Toyota:

- Proliferate a Japanese product
- Possible Assembly in USA
- Some American Parts, but Mostly Japanese
- Market Share Goes to Foreign Nameplate
- Ultimate Control is in Japan
- Engineering and Design may be Partially in USA, but foundation is in Japan
- Global Measures view "Toyota Brand" as a Japanese entity. Example: Businessweek releases figures and Toyota counts as Japanese, while GM and Ford are American.

[Ted]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
What the @#$*?????

To be challenged by Jeeps or Discos in one thing, very debatable...BUT TOYOTAS???????????
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sounds like a challenge to me, you going to take then up on the challenge, or just Web-Wheel?

[SJ]

Ted:

Dennis AJC is going to roll down to Virginia to fulfill an Internet challenge. Don't hold your breath; he lives in Canada.

I'm done with Romper Room, see you guys later.



# of Japanese Cars/Trucks I own as of 9/2/03 = "0" and damn proud of it!

[Ted]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SJ:
Ted:

Dennis AJC is going to roll down to Virginia to fulfill an Internet challenge. Don't hold your breath; he lives in Canada.

I'm done with Romper Room, see you guys later.



# of Japanese Cars/Trucks I own as of 9/2/03 = "0" and damn proud of it!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I sure there is a Tacoma in Canada.

[DennisAJC]

Yes, just watch.

H2's on the landscape waiting while the Toyotas don't show because they deliver pizza for a living.

Just as silly as my 4 year old son daring me to spank him. Well? Do you punk? Do you feel lucky?

TAKE THE MONEY ISSUE OUT OF THE EQUATION.Then you'll understand.


He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover

[DennisAJC]

Get youselves a bumper sticker,

"When I grow up, I wanna be a Hummer"

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover

[Bryanccfshr]

I live in Corpus Christi Texas. Anyone wanna wheel with me? Hell I am only on 33's. a stock H2 is on 35's.
I am all about a friendly outing and will give credit where credit is due. <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre> Mild Taco.

[dostacos]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SJ:
Toyota IS JAPANESE - it is NOT American!!!!! It may be assembled (pieced together) on American soil, but the product you're supporting and the nameplate you're proliferating is still foreign. The ultimate _CONTROL_ and _revenue_ filters back to Japan.

It irks me when people make excuses to buy Japanese and think it's OK because it's "made in America." Bullshyt - it is a foreign product that benefits from lower tariffs and import quotas by assembling on US soil.

Toyota started building cars by taking apart a Chevy and examining it piece-by-piece. Same as the Soviets that copied our F15 fighters to develop their own product [MiG 29]. The Toyota Tundra is a complete rip-off of the Ford F150.

I have a H2 and Chevy truck. Each serves a different purpose, so why do jealous morons feel the need to come here and bash a product that is designed, manufactured, and sold in America using mostly American parts?

What kind of red-blooded American bashes a Hummer and touts a Toyota? Sounds like a sell-out to me. I couldn't drive a Toyota with a clear conscience; knowing I could have supported an American brand, but it's a free-market economy, so I don't bash foreign brands. _My issue is with folks that tout Japanese products while at the same time bashing their very own (Ford, GM)._

My relatives come from Europe and they're utterly shocked at the number of Japanese cars on our roads. They can't fathom that we allow so many foreign products to flood our roads. If so many peope have this attitude that we should buy Japanese and bash our own brands, then I may be the last guy to buy American.

I'm perfectly happy with bull riding, apple pie, and my Chevy truck. You can keep your Toyota, but It's not American - never was and never will be!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I sure hope you are as strong with this attidude toward Jeeps/Dodges and Crysler produts being GERMAN.

I care more on how well the car or truck works and less on where it is made. The Toyota Tacoma is by far the best small truck on the market for offroading [higher ground clearance, stock rear locking diff to name 2]

[OLE YLLR]

HEY YOTAS, WOULD'NT IT BE MORE ON THE LEVEL TO COMPARE AN H2 TO TOYOTA SEQUOIA? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN SUV. AS FOR DOS TACOS, WHEN WE GO OUT ON OUR NEXT OUTING I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO INCLUDE YOU IN OUR TRIP, WE ARE JUST A BUNCH OF HARD WORKING INDIVIDUALS WHO LIKE TO GO OFFROADING AND IT'S OPENED TO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME ALONG. I DON'T LIKE TO TALK SMACK ABOUT ANYBODYS RIG. OUR SOLE PURPOSE IS TO GO OUT AND ENJOY THE GOOD OUTDOORS AND FRIENDS.

[RockYoda]

SJ,

So what are you trying to say, that i'm not AMERICAN because i drive a Toyoda? If that is what you are saying than your a complete moron! Look at most of the products you buy and have in your business and home. I guarntee that at least 75% is foreign made (you commie!) Our economy is partially based on foreign trade. When we buy stuff made in other contries they buy stuff from us. I know of alot of companies that do business with Japan in exports. Man open your eyes and stop believing everything you see on TV. Tough compition is what this country is all about! The law of supply and demand. Toyoda is just supplying very durable goods for a good price. And not that it makes one bit of differance i currently own a 1997 Dodge Ram 4x4, 2001 Chevy Blazer, and my company van is a Chevy 3500. So go blow your anti-american B.S. out your A$$!!



My Toyoda can still go more places than your H2 !

[dostacos]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by OLE YLLR:
HEY YOTAS, WOULD'NT IT BE MORE ON THE LEVEL TO COMPARE AN H2 TO TOYOTA SEQUOIA? nope, we consider that a mall runner too. :-) WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN SUV. AS FOR DOS TACOS, WHEN WE GO OUT ON OUR NEXT OUTING I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO INCLUDE YOU IN OUR TRIP, WE ARE JUST A BUNCH OF HARD WORKING INDIVIDUALS WHO LIKE TO GO OFFROADING AND IT'S OPENED TO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME ALONG. I DON'T LIKE TO TALK SMACK ABOUT ANYBODYS RIG. OUR SOLE PURPOSE IS TO GO OUT AND ENJOY THE GOOD OUTDOORS AND FRIENDS.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are on, I am sure I can get a couple of guys to join up.

and remember when the ELVish wars get hot we will have your back!

[David in Germany]

Oh the shame of being corrected on who owns who.... Don't think I can live through this one.. Hey any one in germany with an H2 wana go wheeling? We could also throw the Land cruser into the mix If you would like to have another Toyota to compair the Hummer to. The land cruser has been quoted as being the most capable Production offroad vehical (by 4X4 Magazine If I remember correctly) anyone wana correct me on that? as per being a different vehical than the H1 ..... uh Ok if you believe..
In 89 the US army did a test of 7 Vehical manufactures for the replacement of the tired and uncapable blazer fleet (cuccv) and due the the bids recieved and the at the time the Pre production models dependability they purchased the Hummer. of course the Lambo version was the best over all but the price tag was too high and the thought that a soldier could exceed 140mph in an offroad vehical was just too much to deal with.... but once again. enjoy what you have! I know I do! By the way when you call us guests.... I am now a registered member! untill I am banned for giving the other side of the story.... Still any takers on a Germany wheeling trip?
David

Can't we all just get along!?

[DRTYFN]

David,
Just to help you out- it's v-e-h-i-c-l-e. Remember that. I know you're "David in Germany", but god damnit learn to spell what you're talking about you blockhead. I know that 4X4 magazine that you hold in your hands like a bible probably spells v-e-h-i-c-l-e correctly.
As for the Lambo LM002, you've very obviously never been around them, have you? Sure they were fast in their day, but their reliability sucked. You think the Humvees break down from rough use, you should see how those things do just around town. I've got a few friends that have owned them, two of which now own H2s, and they both say the H2s are hands down a better v-e-h-i-c-l-e.
And you're not banned- we need a good whipping child because beating up on that poor retard( sorry, developmentally challenged) Chris is getting old.

Would you do me a favor and go out and speed up and down the Autobahn really, really fast just because you can. What?!!!! You're truck won't go that fast?!! Why not? Ohhh yeah, maybe it's because you don't have the money to buy something fast, because you don't have a good enough paying job, because you can't spell worth a ****. Sorry, got all riled up after going back and reading your other post on page 4. I'll be nice now.

And by the way, we (H2 owners) would all like to get along with ALL of the other makes and models of 4X4s, SUVs,ect., because we take enough **** from all of the enviro-wackos that say we're the root of all enviromental destruction.

[David in Germany]

wow not only drives a H2 but he is trying to assist in my education, educatun, egacation... whatever. As per what I can afford, this is not the topic but I OWN 1 1987 4runner, 1 1993 Celica, 1 1997 Lancia Kappa, and last but not least a 92 Renalt Clio. I would not trade any one of them, or value wise compaired to a H2 any 3 of them...
Don't worry guys the link is not to some porn site!
forgot to mention

truth hurts
With Love,
David

Can't we all just get along!?

[This message was edited by David in Germany on 09-03-03 at 04:04 AM.]

[JSB]

I would imagine he has posted here, because this brainless post has made its way to other forums to show the ignorance of the GM Suburban-H2 community. Not the Hummer community. Now it has stumbled it's way to me. God I feel like my brain has been robbed of intelligence after reading this. The dude with the jacked up H2...it looks cool, can it function? That remains to be seen, but it looks cool. Why doesn't a Mod close this thread..since you can't close your hoods with out cracking something, and we can be done with this. I'm still baffled, as to why Hummer would let GM put their name on a Suburban...cough...I mean H2. Now back to some real conversation. Thanks...I had a great time, but I must go before some one see me here.

[DiscoDancingRover]

This whole topic is retarded or is it developmentally challenged, I forgot. The H2 owners like their H2s, don't give them **** or what not. You Toyota like your Toyotas. So if you are going to rile up the fourm leave. If not then stay and actually say something constructive. Seriously, do you idiots understand this concept?

JSB, wow you are real mature. Get a life.

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"

[JSB]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Buckeye Hummer:
SJ,

I am with you. I have ONLY owned American vehicles. I have owned 2 Silverados, 1 Suburban, 1 Tahoe, 1 S10, 1 small blazer and 2 K5 blazers and of course my H2! My father is retired from GM so I know the effects of buying Japanese junk, but now the tables have turned. GM is kicking ass in the truck department like never before! There is absolutely no excuse to spend money on a "foreign truck" and I use that term loosely. Every time I hear someone say foreign and truck together it sends chills down my spine.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You bought Chevy because it was cheap through your Daddy. I support the GM account where I work and own a $40k Burb (sticker) my discount got me to $31k. Talk about reipping off the American people. And guess what I've got 40k on it, and it's had sh!t break like the lock relays, the window module, the out drive gasket, etc. etc. I towed a 5 x 10 trailer and the torque converter went out or at least whines now. Talk about American Quality, I feel like I've been betrayed.

[JSB]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chris:
JSB, wow you are real mature. Get a life.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I heard my nephew (3rd grader) say that to another the other day. Talk about a great debater...Now I'm not saying you have the mind of a 3rd grader...He just might have a great mind such as yourself.

[JSB]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SJ:
crash:

The parts content is almost entirely American. The throttle sensor is from Hitachi, but you can source the technology and engineering from right here in the States.

There are exceptions to the rule. I'm aware that there's cross-pollinization among Ford and Mazda; GM and Isuzu; and others. However, we must look at the absolute when it comes to the H2:

- Designed by Americans
- Corporate base in America
- Product Control is American
- Produced in an American Factory
- Majority of Parts Content is American
- Revenue goes to an American Corp. [GM]

Toyota:

- Proliferate a Japanese product
- Possible Assembly in USA
- Some American Parts, but Mostly Japanese
- Market Share Goes to Foreign Nameplate
- Ultimate Control is in Japan
- Engineering and Design may be Partially in USA, but foundation is in Japan
- Global Measures view "Toyota Brand" as a Japanese entity. Example: Businessweek releases figures and Toyota counts as Japanese, while GM and Ford are American.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You must of forgot about our Mexico Plant that assembles several of the GM trucks.