FJ in action

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

You are still an idiot. You can scale it down to whatever parameters you want to. The facts remain.

It doesn't matter how YOU draw the comparison. Even on the same obstacle with the same driver. You will simply say the lines were different, the humidity changed, or the wind was blowing a different direction.

No paragon, you're mistaken. The fact remains that between the two of us, I'm the only one who has explained and defended his position on the FJ and H3 or been open-minded enough to consider the other's point of view.

I don't need the H3 to be the better wheeler. I'm ready accept the FJ as a better stock wheeler when I see evidence of it ... pictures, direct observations or an objective assessment by someone who doesn't hate H3s. Your say-so alone isn't enough. And until you explain your reasoning, your opinion is only so much hot air and your so-called facts will remain ... imaginary.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by Wisha Haddan H3

No paragon, you're mistaken. The fact remains that between the two of us, I'm the only one who has explained and defended his position on the FJ and H3 or been open-minded enough to consider the other's point of view.

I don't need the H3 to be the better wheeler. I'm ready accept the FJ as a better stock wheeler when I see evidence of it ... pictures, direct observations or an objective assessment by someone who doesn't hate H3s. Your say-so alone isn't enough. And until you explain your reasoning, your opinion is only so much hot air and your so-called facts will remain ... imaginary.

Nope, not mistaken.

You just answered your own riddle. Where have I been seen as an H3 hater besides when I made this comment about the FJ.

Point is that I don't give a shit what you say about your mindedness. Those that have cared to ask sensibly about my thoughts on the FJ know why and how it performed. The idea that you, or any others that question my credibility, views my opinion as hot air and facts as imaginary, is a hoot. It's not my job here to try to impress you.

[ZigsRig]

One thing to point out here...

First, Isnt it interesting how EVERYONE else's oppinion is wrong, or stupid... However, P's oppinion in his own mind are hard fact...

Also, why is it that people only argue with P? Could it be that his arrogant ways have overstayed his welcome?

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by ZigsRig

One thing to point out here...


Also, why is it that people only argue with P? Could it be that his arrogant ways have overstayed his welcome?

I'm sorry Zig. It was voted down 12 - 0 . Request denied.

[ZigsRig]

Thats ok too... it seems like the tables are turning...

I cant wait to see him get himself banned being a dummy

[ZigsRig]

In not talking about our mod here....


however, it is interesting how a certain someone gets very quiet when P starts acting up....

perhaps he is embarrassed (fat rednecks do present a bad image)

[Walter_Cronkite]

My Lord Zig,

You're as dumb and clueless as my clinically dead left nut.









.

[KenP]

Originally Posted by ZigsRig

One thing to point out here...

First, Isnt it interesting how EVERYONE else's oppinion is wrong, or stupid... However, P's oppinion in his own mind are hard fact...

Also, why is it that people only argue with P? Could it be that his arrogant ways have overstayed his welcome?

Has anyone here wheeled with an FJ other than Paragon? Has anyone here wheeled with 3's and FJ's other than Paragon?

Just curious.

[31_bandits]

Originally Posted by The Green Lantern

..can't wait for the Lexus version....lol

that was funny

i bet it has wood accents

[31_bandits]

Originally Posted by BlueHUMMERH2

1. Width, wheelbase, and ability to avoid the difficult line.
2. Driver experience.
3. Less concern for the preservation of sheet metal and vehicle operability.

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4. some reasonable % of "trails" were cut through whatever by jeepers for jeeps. Do the same in reverse and get a different answer.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by KenP

Has anyone here wheeled with an FJ other than Paragon? Has anyone here wheeled with 3's and FJ's other than Paragon?

Just curious.

We keep inviting them, but they won't come out and wheel with us.

[BlueHUMMERH2]

Originally Posted by KenP

Has anyone here wheeled with an FJ other than Paragon? Has anyone here wheeled with 3's and FJ's other than Paragon?

Just curious.

I have wheeled with both FJ's and H3's, but never at the same time. I think that is true for every member here, that none of us have been with both at the same time.

[BlueHUMMERH2]

Originally Posted by 31_bandits

4. some reasonable % of "trails" were cut through whatever by jeepers for jeeps. Do the same in reverse and get a different answer.

Agreed. The Paragon folks will even agree that the trails were cut for:
1. Small wheelbase
2. Skinny width

I think it's actually more fun, and more of challenge to make an H2 follow the Jeeps. The Jeeps are always surprised about how it does.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

Apparently you haven't asked nicely enough.

From what I was told, there is a group of Hummers and FJers getting together in Cali some time in the next week or so to go wheeling.

Yep, I was going to attend, but this time I had to pike...

Oh well, Sewie will be there

[knowitall]

i bet he is scared

[PARAGON]

Zigturd can now come back out and play.

[ZigsRig]

GFY cry baby

[DennisAJC]

WOW!!!!


I just went through this thread again and realized how impressive the FJ footage is and nothing interesting of the H3s except a few chops of gun on top of the posers.


.....And alot of whining.


I think I'll ask the FJ crowd to give me some footage to go with my H2 video.

[usetosellhummer]

I think that is a great Idea, Put the Fj footage with your H2 footage

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by RazM

Oh, and he posted this picture to show what I just noticed the other day. The exhaust tip hangs LOWER than the bumper, and he says he can take a big hit off a drop?

That's a good catch. No pun intended. If I had my exhaust hanging like that I'd have smashed it flat by now - especially in Moab.