Pissed and Need to Vent

[ShaggyX]

es·o·ter·ic Audio pronunciation of "esoteric" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (s-trk)
adj.

1.
1. Intended for or understood by only a particular group: an esoteric cult. See Synonyms at mysterious.
2. Of or relating to that which is known by a restricted number of people.

2.
1. Confined to a small group: esoteric interests.
2. Not publicly disclosed; confidential.


Do I win a prize?

[BlueTJCO]

is he a prick for talking behind your back, yes? Did he deserve to get fired, not in my opinion.

"My family or friends, or staff, never have to know whats going on in my head"

you say this yet you come to your local 4x4 board to ask "shall I fire him or not?"

There are certain actions that need to be taken when someone disrespects you. I can think of plenty of actions you could have taken and maybe taught him a lesson or two about opening your mouth about someone behind their back. Put him on some type of probation if you want to send a message. Make his life at work hell for awhile. But to fire him outright for making a comment about your RIG makes me think that your a prick.

I work for a very small company. I understand that you need to respect that chain of command and damn well better respect your boss. But he really didn't do anything to affect the company or the work or does for it. He hurt your feelings when it really comes down to it and you figured you'd just show him who big man on campus is and fire his ass.

Now I wonder if the rest of your employees respect you for that decision. OR if now, during the Nuggets win tonight, they are all calling you a douchbag anyways, because lets face it....You are the BOSS....and we all know our BOSSES ARE DOUCHBAGS!

[PARAGON]

es·o·ter·ic Pronunciation Key</A>(s-trk)

Try again, EH!

[Andy C]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hart1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Just out of interest - is there a web site or anything that we can look at to find "The Way" - it will probably save us a bit of time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dr. Peck’s “The Road Less Traveled” is a great starting Point. You could go on the web and search for Kant’s discourse on the Mind and the “Greater Good” of “Moral Worth.” Vernon Howard’s works are located at Amazon.com.

Unfortunately, Master Kitt’s works are long out of print (in english), however, if you are really interested, PM me and I will loan you what I have collected.

Hope this helps, it sure has made a difference in my life. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Man you're hard core - the JWs must still be mourning your loss.

The last one of those guys that I dealt with stood on my doorstep for an hour before it dawned on him I was ripping the piss out of him.

[Hart1]

Tree hugging? Where did that come from? It is amazing how many here can sling labels on people without winking an eye.

However, looking at this from a pure esoteric viewpoint (sorry Paragon and Tower), I could reply “I am whatever you want me to be.” The fact is, it just really does not matter what you think of me, or I you.

[KenP]

Google images "Squeal like a pig"

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...ig&btnG=Search

Look at the second pic from the left.

[JamesT]

Doubt you can relate Bling idiot. Being a car wash attendant really doesnt put you in the same class of a business owner. Listen...they are calling for you at the pre wash section. GO!


ahh yea mofo, given some dude da axe cause he don't like your whip is a great decision. and den turning around and making fun of his choice of whips? What, do all ya'll douche bags act like you be in junor high still? i hope dis fool takes yo azz to court and wins, like a mug.[/quote]

[KenP]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andy C H2 hasbeen:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Andy C H2 hasbeen:
Ah you see thats where my leadership style may differ from yours - My world is simple - if you work for me you have to be able to drink heavily - you have to be able to swear proficiently and if you have a reasonable dispute you have to be able to beat me in a fight in the parking lot behind the bar before I listen to what you have to say.

Simple but effective - my guys would kick my arse if I even used the word esoteric - they would automaticaly think I had turned into some raving tree hugging soap dodger and beat me to death. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Hey, I need a job. Can I take the one of the guy you just fired. Is this in the lingerie shop or the security business? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The Security business - the lingerie employee relations are handled a little differently - and trust me you do not qualify. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Andy, lingere... Can I.... Nevermind. Uh, yeah... I wouldn't qualify either. (Someone else reads this forum now so I have to watch myself. That one was close. )

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hart1:
Is the statement true about putting the Hummer first over your business and employees? If you are honestly not doing this, then why the perception that you are?

Rember to most, perception is the reality.

Just reflect on these thoughts, that's all I ask. There is no right or wrong conclusion to this request. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hart1:
You miss the whole point.

That's really a non-answer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Hart1]

Everything I typed was/is true. Pot, kettle, black? But please, continue...

Thanks for proving my point!

Don't stop, I need more material....

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Let me be so bold to explain enlightenment to you </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No need, your actions already have....thanks!

[Hart1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Take the esoteric path to the local library and look up "information" in the dictionary </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't really need to. There are differnt types of information; little or no information; false information and the like. Let me guess, Alpo?

[Hart1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">My current boss and I get a long great. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

We call this type of reaction "brown nose-ing"

Really, James, I was trying to point you to a esoteric path, and I have failed.

But let me say this. What if you would have treated the situation in a different way? A way in which both you and your (ex)employee could have grown from this event?

You might have fired the only honest person ( at least as perception goes) in your business, who knows now what type employees you have left? Yes men?

[Andy C]

I have lost the will to live.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sfox:
...probably has cell phone withdrawals......

S </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[devilsfan]

I think the fact that this is the first comment James has HEARD was glossed over. Does anyone honestly think this is the first time James has done something to tick this guy off, and this is the first time this guy has made a comment behind James' back? I seriously doubt it. He's just gotten brazen enough to do it within earshot of the boss. To me, that's not a joke, that's escalation of disrespect. It's definitely one thing if he bitches about James to his wife at the end of the day, but quite another to be that bold at work.

I am not a boss, but an employee in a small company (15 employees). Let me tell you what this kind of dissent can do to company morale and working conditions. Our office was VERY tense for awhile when we had a new hire who did nothing but bitch about my manager behind her back. We're a pretty close knit group, and if there's ever a problem, we sit down as a group and resolve it. Works every time. This new girl (God only knows why she's still here, I'm hoping to see her ass get canned before the year is over) bitched 24-7 via instant messager, email, vocally - any time the manager left the room - over truly STUPID stuff. Like the manager didn't review her project yet (when the manager had 7 other projects going on of MUCH higher inportance). I got sick of it one morning and put her in her place (and got the attitude of "You're not my boss!" to which I responded "Obviously not, because you would have been fired weeks ago, bitch." Things are still tense here, a good 4 months later. She's stopped her bitching, but now that I know what kind of lazy ass person she is, I can't stand her - and a lot of my colleagues can't, either. It's changed our office environment permanently. And this is strictly because one person decided they wanted to bitch about the boss behind her back. And a NEW HIRE at that - imagine what effect a top manager would have on the working environment and the rest of the employees!!

I think James did the right thing. It has nothing to do with the H2. His manager could have brought up anything - vacations, his wife (in which the guy likely would have walked off with a broken nose), etc. He chose something he knew was dear to James on purpose and went with it. It wasn't a slip up - that comment was intentional.

I say good riddance to bad trash. What's wrong with "yes men"? It's called a team environment. That's a GOOD thing in business.

Stacy

[Hart1]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You see this is the problem with these esoterical wankers - they feel that they are on a level of enlightenment that us mere mortals will never be able to transcend to. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Never, ever said this, at all. In fact, the way is there for all, if you would take the time to find it, IMHO.

If Paragon stops the attacks, I will not respond. This is the land of "the right" to self defense, right?

[tower]

That explains SO much.

[LasVegas]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Klaus:
Hart,

My comment was not aimed at you. Dennis throws a bomb at the South every once in a while just to stir the pot. No real harm done.

I'd like Dennis to visit the South and see the sights. Maybe drop him off in North Georgia for a canoe trip! You know - Where they filmed Deliverance!

Dennis could help them with their grammar, and they could well... Show him how the movie was made!

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LMAO!!!! That movie still creeps me out! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Trust me Dennis, you wouldn't understand Appalachia at all.

[ROX]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hart1:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">You see this is the problem with these esoterical wankers - they feel that they are on a level of enlightenment that us mere mortals will never be able to transcend to. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Never, ever said this, at all. In fact, the way is there for all, if you would take the time to find it, IMHO.

If Paragon stops the attacks, I will not respond. This is the land of "the right" to self defense, right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>He didn't say you said it. na-na-nay-boo-boo. He said you feel that.

Dude, you have the world all backwards. Your bitching and whining and your idiotic attempts at intelligent conversation is the reason I play with you. Quit being the such a loser and you draw no attention. You couldn't keep quiet for 10 minutes after Tower gave you the out. You had another opportunity to redeem yourself but, man, I don't know, you just don't see the light. At all.

You quite flatter yourself by labeling my toying with you as "attacks." It's nearly as comical as your statement about your "self defense." The defense for stupidity is not more stupidity. While I was gone, you went on to attempt to drum up support for your fragile ego and hope that some of the over 2,000 forum members will come rushing to your dire aid because you feel so unjustly "attacked."

I will have to defer to Tower, because in my many several posts I was unable to properly address you is such a correct, concise and genuine manner. Yet it went straight over your head and you instead attempted to deflect it to me in a crippled manner by suggesting that you will cease your responses upon no further "attacks" from me. Oh, I can see it now, a 12 pager and all about nothing. You failed to miss the part where I am a disgruntled screenwriter who wanted to work on the show Seinfeld. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
I am a disgruntled screenwriter who wanted to work on the show Seinfeld. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Really?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hart1: In order to obtain harmony, you and your staff must act like a wolf pack, not like a six pack. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

That means he's the leader of the pack and he gets to kick people out of the pack whenever he wants. Then he gets to split the six pack with the remaining, contributing members of his wolf pack. I watch the Discovery Channel; I know this stuff.
What do I win?