HID Headlights for your H2

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by W1N:
NJ H2,

would you provide the product number for those. Those like first real bi-xenons I'we seen around for H2.

Thanks! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

http://hidtech.com/projects/04hummer.html

[kodiakz]

I'll get you guys some pics this weekend. But if you have a wire crimper, a file, and maybe a dremmel you are set. Really not hard at all. An air dremmel makes the job doable in about an hour and looks perfect.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beastmaster:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Unless you were doing the projector, clearly Beastmaster's setup is the best route. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oh - dumb question. Do you still have any pattern pictures of when you were running the X6024 Sylvania's?

-Steve </div></BLOCKQUOTE>They're still in there. I'll have to remember to do a picture this weekend. I guess I could search and see if I have a picture on here. Seems like I put them in around the first of '03 or so.

PhilD also did them and figured out how to tap a hole to get to the other aiming screw to get them set right. I kept taking them in and out a couple of times and got lucky on the aiming.

[Beastmaster]

I took some time to calculate what those dual bulb HID H4's would create. The units listed on eBay are 6000k bulbs.

6000K HID bulbs = 2500 lumens per capsule. 2x2500 on low capsule + 2x2500 on high capsule = 10000 lumens out of both headlights.

In comparison:
60/55w Halogens = 1500 lumens per bulb on either low or high. 2x1500 on low + 2x1500 on high = 6000 Lumens.

80/80w Halogens = 1900 lumens per bulb on either low or high. 2x1900 on low + 2x1900 on high = 7600 lumens.

5000k HID = 3000 lumens per bulb. 2x3000 on low = 6000 lumens (which equals stock halogens with BOTH low and high turned on).

So - if (and that's a big if) you were able to get ALL the light efficiently onto the road and into a useable pattern with that eBay special, you would have quite a bit of light - who needs additional lighting?

[Sportsdude]

MD_SAILOR, did you get your light set?

[H222]

this kit is very similar to the one i have on my truck. to everyone who thinks you need expensive projector housings or for that matter high beam has not seen these bulbs in action. say what you want but these kits are inexpensive and crazy effective. along with my hummer i also replaced the H4 high beam in my G35 (along with an upgraded 6000K bulb in the factory HID location) with these on it throws a beam, no kidding, like a mile down the road. even my 89 EF civic hatch has this a set and they throw out crazy amounts of light with headlight assemblies that are over 15 years old. bottom line HID kits even if they are just bulb replacement work very well

[dochummer]

NJH2, how difficult were those HID's to install? If you didn't do it yourself, how much did it cost to do it? Thanks...

[VTSTOMPER]

these look cool!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/H2-HUMMER-SYLVANIA-XENAR...temZ8019042277QQrdZ1

[md_sailor]

Jesus....Caffeine

[Nixxxster]

Does the XE7R have projector?

[Beastmaster]

I've updated the page. I was asked by another owner to show the pattern and coverage while being further back from an object or a wall.

I've been able to do that. Now you're able to see the coverage from side to side as well as how the spot up in front of your vehicle shows up using these lights.

Same link:
http://24.248.84.138/hummers/headlig...D_retrofit.htm

You'll see the new stuff on the bottom.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by md_sailor:
This Item Has High and Low Beam as an option. I have ordered them. Simply go the ordering page and Select the High and Low from the drop down you can also select the Color of the beam you desire at that point. These are one third the price of the Deltas. They are also guarnteed Waterproof, There is a Video showing these being put into a fish tank with live fish in it While Lit. I'm sure if you go to the site and elplor the options manu of you will be as SOLD as I was. I have first hand experience with the delta product and would never go that route again. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I got a set of the Delta reverse lights and continue to have nothing but problems with them. They can take a beating and took a good one in Moab, but the bulb is not grounded properly causing me to need to go in and rewire it so that it doesn't quit burning periodically.

Apparently, Delta products leave a lot to be desired.

As far as your HIDs, the biggest problems is that the stock headlight buckets do not spread ANY light very well. So it really doesn't matter how good a bulb you put in it. But, some here are happy with theirs and you may be with yours.

[NJ H2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
]Yours are not using the stock reflectors to diffuse the light though. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, but there may be a better housing available now which might be better. Something with a glass cover might be better.

[Nixxxster]

Check this site they make custom projection HID. NJ H2 have a set. Theu look pretty good and are Bi-Xenon projector.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kodiakz:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I think they run about 1200 bucks a set. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually, they are only $700 a set </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

LINK- DO NOW!!!

[Sportsdude]

Please provide feeback once you install it. Thank you.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by md_sailor:
Finally Here is the real deal! High and Low beam Conversion and it does not cost an arm and a leg. I have Done the 1400.00 Delta HID and the longest THEY went without failing was a 2 week period. the 3rd time they failed I pulled them and sent them back. This looks like the ticket and my set is in the mail.
http://www.xtralights.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2\

Technical specifications:

Bulb Type: 9007
Color & Light Output:HID Bulb Color Temperature
(Kelvin) Light Output
(Lumen)
Golden Yellow 3000K 3400 (Brightest)
Crystal White 4300K 3300
Diamond Blue 6000K 3200
Deep Blue 8000K 3100
Violet Purple 10000K 3000

Life Span: Over 3200 Hours
Voltage Range: DC 10V-16V
Rated Voltage: DC 13.2V
Rated Current: 3.2A
Output: 35W
Working Temp: -40 to 105 F
Reverse Connection Protection: Yes - No damage to ballasts & bulbs)
Short Circuit Protection: Yes - Lock protection against continuous & long-time short circuit
Open Circuit Protection: Yes - Recover when reboot, lock protection in 0.2s after open circuit
Water & Weather Proof: Yes - 100%
High Voltage Test: GND:500Vdc/1 min>10mA
Isolated Resistance: GND > 100M Ohm
Dimensional specifications:

Ballast Module: 2.75" x 2.75" x 1.25"
20" wiring harness to igniter
24" wiring harness to power source

Factory Warranty:

2 years, except 1 year for bulbs </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[PARAGON]

Anything that simply replaces the bulb and uses the stock reflector assembly is going to leave you in want. The stock buckets are just cheap and crappy and do not do a good job of handling the beam with any bulb replacement.

If you want to get HIDs, get something that replaces the whole assembly, buckets and all.

[Beastmaster]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by VTSTOMPER:
ah poo.

I miss the Denali lamps (projection) I had in my sierra. I added a set of Hella ballasts with Philips Utilion bulbs (6000K). I was so happy with that set-up.

I then tossed some in my yoda, but there was tons of wasted light. (reflection)

I would like to do the H2 with some projections like others have done here, but I will wait on it. I have other things to do first!

You set-up looks good BTW Beastmaster! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks. It's kinda funny - my wife's sedan has E-Code spec headlamps. I like driving that at night because of the superior lighting pattern. Not anymore!!!

E-Code Hella's combined with the low beam only HID capsules worked out far better than I thought they would. It's good enough that I rarely need highbeams now. And I haven't gotten flashed at all.

I still want to see pictures like what I did with the wall aiming shots with projector units. The XE7's definitely pique my curiosity, but the dimensions require me to literally destroy the headlight buckets to run them. Not something I cherish doing.

Besides, doing what I did for the price I did them for, I think it's a killer upgrade that will give huge gains. And, it's easy enough to do on nearly any truck with a 7" headlamp.

[Beastmaster]

The crappy light pattern is due to bad reflector and glass pattern designs. Blame the DOT and SAE for using a 1950's era spec in the 21st Century. No matter which bulb someone uses, bad light patterns plus more light output equals a crappy light pattern.

I've seen good quality reflectors (I love Hellas because they work great, and have excellent light positioning and patterns) work very well with retro kits. The Vision Plus (DOT/SAE Spec) is nice, but the E-Code spec is killer with a decently built retro kit - as long as the bulbs are within the 5800 to 6200k range.

As for the new laws - it's mainly to help reduce glare complaints. Again, if the headlights were decently done, it didn't matter what bulb was in it. Pattern and light aiming is the key - not the bulb. But then, the politicians always know what's best for us anyways....right?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kodiakz:
Projectors produce a far better light pattern than do any of the retro kits (I have personally sold and installed many of both and sell the exact kit referenced above). The retro kit is a huge leap over the oem flashlights, but tends to give an 'everywhere' or sloppy light refraction pattern and wastes a good portion of what is produced. Projectors do just that--project the light exactly where needed while not blinding oncoming traffic. If you want bang for the buck, do the retro kit, but if you want the best possible lighting solution to date, nothing beats true projection HID (for driving anyway--I am sure there are some dirivng around with 50 bazillion candlepower light bars!!).

However, I do believe that many states and the federal dot have recently passed laws making it illegal to put HID's on any vehicle that did not come from the factory with them. All the dealers that were selling kits in the US closed or moved up north of the border (at least the ones we dealt with). </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Sportsdude]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Beastmaster:
Who makes those? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Xsighting. Here's another photo.