Barack Hussein Obama - 50 Lies and Counting

[Big Z]

Posted on Politicalforum.com and many verified with truthorfiction.com and snopes.com

1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - L IAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. According to the New York Times: "I am a strong believer of the Islamic faith," Ms. Obama, 85, said in a recent interview in Kenya.' Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8. ) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies. You seek to disarm America while our avowed enemy, Iran, will not subject itself to a nuclear ban. Top Hamas politica l adviser Ahmed Yousef said the Hamas terrorist group 'supports Obama's foreign policy vision'.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didn't write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel. You state you will open friendly communication with the Leader of Iran who is attempting to develop nuclear weapons to destroy us, but refuse to speak to FOX news. You are against provisions of the Patriot act which would all wiretapping of the phones of suspected terrorists in the USA.

30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

31.) I Didn't Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didn't.

33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.

35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.

38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

39.) I Don't Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

40.) I don't Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people's words.

44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.

46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won't wear a flag pin and you don't put your hand over your heart during the Anthem. There is a Cuban Flag with Che Guevara Displayed at Barack Obama Campaign Office which you allow to be displayed. You voted against making english the official language of the United States. You voted to give illegal aliens social security benefits, which would bankrupt the social security system for Americans legally paying into it.

49.) My Wife Didn't Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife's words follow lock-step in the vain of Rev. Wright and Louis Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn't Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.

IF YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT THE TRUTH IS REALLY RELEVANT. OF NOT... YOU DESERVE TO BE LIED TO ABOUT EVERYTHING AND FROM EVERYBODY.

[KenP]

Don't forget about the little one this weekend:

?I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps and the story in our family was is that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn?t leave the house for six months

Truth:
His mother was an only child. The Soviet Army liberated Auschwitz.

[3Hummer]

if i could vote it would defintly not be for him

[MDimitri]

Oh man...If he gets in...AMEHICO is POOCHED!! Better move to Canada while you still can!! MOVE NOW!

Free Cameltoes to the first 5 million, this is a time limited offer.

[Adam in CO]

How does any of this make him any different than any other politician?

At least we knew Bill was a draft-dodging, pot-smoking, womanizing SOB when we elected him.

Otherwise, they are all the same. American politics is now nothing more than choosing the least of all evils.

As bad as it is, it's as good as it gets.

[wpage]

Another 50 good reasons to support McCain!

[LR wolf]

Originally Posted by wpage

Another 50 good reasons to support McCain!

I'm just amazed you guys would vote for more of the same,
some people never learn

[KenP]

Originally Posted by LR wolf

I'm just amazed you guys would vote for more of the same,
some people never learn

Have you read some of that guy's history? Where he comes from, where he went to school, his "spiritual leader"'s words, his upbringing and contempt for so many aspects of America?

If you lived here, read his history and had half a brain you'd realize how terrible he'd be for the world.

Damn, have you even listened to the crap his wife has said?

Hell, those two weren't even proud of their country until a few months ago. WTF?!?!

And let's not forget his complete and unargueable lack of experience in all things international. Hell, he's been in a national office for what, two years? Give me a break.

[LR wolf]

Originally Posted by KenP

Have you read some of that guy's history? Where he comes from, where he went to school, his "spiritual leader"'s words, his upbringing and contempt for so many aspects of America?

If you lived here, read his history and had half a brain you'd realize how terrible he'd be for the world.

Damn, have you even listened to the crap his wife has said?

Hell, those two weren't even proud of their country until a few months ago. WTF?!?!

And let's not forget his complete and unargueable lack of experience in all things international. Hell, he's been in a national office for what, two years? Give me a break.

I did live there,
at least his wife is strong enough to have a brain of her own, McCains wife wont even release her tax returns,
and he's had the same amount of experience as JFK

[Big Dad]

I bet the farm on McCain.

[lennyrebel]

Originally Posted by 3Hummer

if i could vote it would defintly not be for him

And in a country of 300 million I'm sure they could do better than these 2 democrat misfits. Makes John McCain look like a Saint or Saviour. Why do they recycle crap like the clintons. Don't people have any memories. I'm sure the average cab driver is more suited and has better morals. Never underestimate the size of a politicians ego.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Clinton:

A screaming "wanna-be a man" without balls who use to sleep with Bill, has only 8 years of experience in "WHAT" i don't know...if you thinking of voting for her because shes a women "thats not a reason"


Obama:

A recent convert to Christianity, with NO experience who wants to sit down and talk to Castro, Ak who ever mobad, Mao, the devil and whoever, who doesn't know one end of an M-1 from another, has never led, only follows .......if your thinking of voting for him because he would be the first black president "thats not a reason"

McClain:

An older person with experience in government, with Military experience, with some of the right ideas (NOT ALL) who knows that without NATIONAL SECURITY all else doesn't matter...

what i tell people is to become Mr Spock (star trek) for a moment and think logiclly:

list all the IMPORTANT issues down on paper and assign them a percentage point with the total equaling 100...

SAMPLE......(yours may be different)

National Defense: 45%
Health Care: 5%
Illegal Immigration: 5%
Womens Rights: 3%
Gun Control: 5%
ENERGY: 20%
Israel: 10%
Poverty: 2%
Conservation (ecology): 2%
Unions: 1%
Gay Rights: 2%

Now, again without emotion plug in who best fills YOUR priorities...

McClains looking better, RIGHT !!!!

[LR wolf]

Originally Posted by RubHer Yellow Ducky

Clinton:

[Obama:

A recent convert to Christianity, with NO experience who wants to sit down and talk to Castro, Ak who ever mobad, Mao, the devil and whoever, who doesn't know one end of an M-1 from another, has never led, only follows .......if your thinking of voting for him because he would be the first black president "thats not a reason"
][/b]

Recent Convert? never heard that, what are you saying he was Jewish?
has enough experince to meet the requirements set by the legislature, and Bush had the experience, and look where we are now,
Castro is not in office anymore, and he never said he would sit with the Cuban Government,
anyone who would vote for his color is a MORON

[HummerHippy]

It's politics baby! Spin it anyway you want. I love hearing about the dirty tactics that Nixon's campaign used to get him elected.


Anyway, here's one man's research into the 50 claims of lying...

Part 1

1. Selma Got Me Born. Senator Obama meant that the civil rights movement helped foster greater understanding between people of different races, which made it possible for his mother and father to have a relationship. He didn?t mean that the events in Selma literally led to his being conceived. Here is a section from that speech: http://www.barackobama.com/2007/03/0...march_comm.php

2. Father Was A Goat Herder. Barack Obama Sr. did grow up herding sheep in a village in Kenya, and only got to go to America because he earned a scholarship to study abroad at the age of 23. ?Due to a program offering Western educational opportunities to outstanding Kenyan students that was organized by nationalist leader Tom Mboya, Obama Sr. was awarded a scholarship in economics, and at the age of 23 he enrolled at the University of Hawaii.?

3. Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter. Senator Obama never claimed that his father was a ?proud freedom fighter.? He has spoken frankly about how his father went back to Kenya and served as a government bureaucrat, until political problems led him to become a disillusioned alcoholic in his later years.

4. My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom. Kenyan politician Raila Odinga has claimed that he and Obama are related, though there does not seem to be much evidence. In any case, Obama is actually related to Dick Cheney, and I wouldn?t hold that against him. See the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7176683.stm

5. My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian. Obama?s grandmother IS a Christian ? he was referring to his grandmother in Kansas. As most people understand, a person has TWO grandmothers. The author confuses Obama?s U.S. and African-born grandmothers.

6. My Name is African Swahili. His first name, ?Barack,? is a word in both Swahili and Arabic. See this page from the University of Pennsylvania:
http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/langu...es/004187.html

7. I Never Practiced Islam. Senator Obama?s mother did not raise him with any religion. He attended both public and Catholic schools in Indonesia. He never attended a ?madrassah.? See Time Magazine: http://time-blog.com/swampland/2007/01/disgusting.html. and See CNN.COM: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

8. My School In Indonesia Was Christian. He attended a Catholic school in Indonesia for two years. The other two years were spent in public schools.

9. I Was Fluent In Indonesian. Sen. Obama never claimed to be able to speak Indonesian fluently. See Time Magazine: http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...695803,00.html

10. Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience. The smear emails don?t make much sense: they claim that Sen. Obama?s time in Indonesia was enough to turn him into a Muslim fanatic, but not enough for him to have experience in foreign countries. Obama said that his view of the world is different because of his childhood. Anyone with a similar experience, as well as psychologists and sociologists, can confirm this statement too (TPM).

See Time Magazine: http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...695803,00.html

11. I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies. If Obama?s travels in Africa, Asia and the Middle East don?t have any relevance to foreign affairs, what would? A visit to Antarctica?

12. I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion. The smear email suggests that Sen. Obama had no problems growing up as a biracial kid in the 1960s and 1970s. The anonymous people who put out these emails must know him better than he does.

13. An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office. This may be an incorrect memory from childhood. The article may have appeared in another magazine.

14. A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life. The book recites a memory from his childhood. Several advertisements depicting the whitening creams that Obama described did appear in magazines at that time (and still do today.)

15. I Won?t Run On A National Ticket In ?08. The quotation is false: Obama said he had ?no plans? to run, which is the standard cover used by politicians. In fact, out of all candidates in the primaries, every single one had stated this at one point?including Sen. Clinton and McCain.

16. Present Votes Are Common In Illinois. Present votes ARE common in Illinois, as has been explained by Illinois legislators, newspapers and researchers. Present votes are made strategically to help weaker representatives in your party?for example Planned Parenthood ASKED Obama to vote ?present? instead of ?no? on some abortion bills so that other Democratic State Senators would have cover.

17. Oops, I Misvoted. No idea what this one is even referring to. Here is a complete list of Obama?s voting record: http://projects.washingtonpost.com/c...mbers/o000167/

18. I Was A Professor Of Law. Sen. Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago; according to UC, he was a professor of law. It does not get any simpler than this, even if the academic titles seem confusing. Obama was also NOT on leave when he was teaching? he has been on leave since his election to U.S. Senate. Here is the U of Chicago School of Law statement on this very issue: http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html

19. I Was A Constitutional Lawyer. Sen. Obama worked as a civil rights lawyer in Chicago from 1993 to 2002. See Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_l...f_Barack_Obama. Also here is the website of the law firm he worked for: http://www.lawmbg.com/index.cfm/PageID/2674

20. Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill. Sen. Obama did propose and pass the toughest ethics legislation in Congress yet, banning many different ways that lobbyists got legislators to do favors for them. Find the text of the Legislative Transparency and Accountability Act at http://obama.senate.gov/issues/ethic...bbying_reform/

21. The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass. Just because a bill passed in two weeks does not mean it was not difficult to pass. The full process actually took more than 14 days. However, if your opponent accuses you of getting bills passed TOO fast, you obviously do not have many vulnerabilities.

22. I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill. Sen. Obama?s original bill was much tougher but the Republicans required it toned down before it was allowed to pass (this was prior to 2006 takeover) in its final form?which still established new regulations which no-one else did. Obama also worked with Republican Senator Dick Lugar to pass a bill to keep nukes out of the hands of terrorists. See coverage at http://www.democraticunderground.com...dress=388?3353

23. I Have Released My State Records. All IL Senate records are available through Illinois State. Read What Media Matters Had to Say: ?The Associated Press reported that Sen. Barack Obama ?says he can?t step up and produce his own records from his days in the Illinois state Senate. He says he hasn?t got any.? But Obama did not claim that the documents do not exist. In fact, the article quoted Obama saying: ?I don?t have ? I don?t maintain ? a file of eight years of work in the state Senate because I didn?t have the resources available to maintain those kinds of records.?

24. I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess. Sen. Obama can legitimately take credit for this but other people were involved also.

From: http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live...bamaearly.html
?Key players who worked with Obama at Altgeld Gardens said he deserves credit for pulling together a team of hundreds of residents who rallied for improvements at their housing projects. Obama helped secure grants for a jobs program and pushed for asbestos removal. His biggest accomplishment may have been to leave in place a group of activist mothers, some of whom continue to work or live at Altgeld Gardens.?

25. My Economics Bill Will Help America. It is unclear what Senate bill contained Sen. Obama?s ?111 economic policies.? In any case, Sen. Obama?s economic program has many positive features, including cutting loopholes exploited by corporations and wealthy Americans, cutting taxes on the middle class, and shoring up Social Security by ensuring that the rich pay as much of the rest of the us into the system.

[HummerHippy]

Part 2...

26. I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois. The ?supporter? who said Obama was not bold was actually a Republican state senator. Whether Obama was a bold leader is a value judgement left for the reader. He did some good work on healthcare and criminal justice in Illinois.

27. I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year. Untrue accusation, which also contradicts claim #36.

28. No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA. The Canadian embassy contacted Mr. Goolsbee in his civilian role, not the other way around. The statement is imprecise, though.

From: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...afta-gate.html

?It?s now clear that a Canadian news report that started this flap wasn?t accurate. No evidence has surfaced to show that any Obama ?staffer? telephoned the Canadian ambassador in Washington, and all concerned deny that any such conversation took place. But it is equally clear that Obama?s senior economic adviser did visit Canada?s consulate in Chicago on Feb. 8, and that NAFTA was one of the several topics discussed.?

29. I Am Tough On Terrorism. Sen. Obama did not vote for the resolution designating the Iranian group a terrorist organization because he did not want to give George W. Bush an excuse to start another war.

30. I Am Not Acting As President Yet. Not sure what it means to be ?acting as President? when you?re a candidate. In any case, the FARC accusation is false. It?s a false quotation.

31. I Didn?t Run Ads In Florida. Obama advertised on national cable. Some adverts would be seen in Florida due to inability of disabling that from happening. The decision was cleared beforehand through the South Carolina DNC head as required by DNC rules. The Herald Tribune wrote, ?Obama?s campaign launched national television advertisements on CNN and MSNBC that are shown in Florida ? and ?Obama?s campaign spokesman Bill Burton disputes the pledge was broken. He said the campaign asked CNN and MSNBC to pull Florida from the ad buy, but the networks said they could not.? From: http://www.heraldtribune.com/article...NEWS/801230668

32. I Won Michigan. Sen. Obama never claimed to win Michigan; he wasn?t even on the ballot there. He mistakenly said ?Michigan? in one interview when discussing the states he had won, but it was a gaffe. Clearly tired, he also called the interviewer by the wrong name.

33. I won Nevada. Sen. Obama never claimed to win Nevada, although he did get one more delegate from the state due to the rules for proportionally allocating delegates by voting district. From USA Today, ?Obama said in a statement released by his campaign around 6:15 p.m. ET that he came from 25 points behind and nearly beat Clinton today because he did well across all of Nevada ? ?including rural areas where Democrats have traditionally struggled.?? From:http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...9-nevada_N.htm

34. I Want All Votes To Count. Sen. Obama wanted the primary votes to count according to the rules everyone (including Senator Clinton) agreed to in the beginning.

35. I Want Americans To Decide. It?s not Sen. Obama?s fault that some states use caucuses to choose their delegates and others use primaries. Caucuses may be less representative, but this is the way states like Iowa and Nebraska do their voting. He has won big victories in primaries (e.g. Virginia, Wisconsin, Louisiana) as well as caucuses.

36. I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate. - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didn?t write yourself. Quotation is false. In addition, the number 26 is the number of bills he passed in his last year ALONE.

37. My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend. No idea what this is about. Accusers give no details, evidence, reference.

38. I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you. Alice Palmer held Obama?s seat in the Illinois state senate before him, and she decided she wanted to run for the spot again after his first term. However, she was unable to get enough legitimate signatures to run for the seat.

39. I Don?t Take PAC Money. Obama has not accepted PAC money directly or indirectly in this election. According to Factcheck.org: ?We?ve seen no evidence that Obama is not adhering to the letter of his pledge.? From: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...-ing_heat.html

40. I don?t Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting. Obama never made that statement. His statement is that he does not employ federally registered lobbyists and his administration will not include any. That statement is correct.

41. My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad. The author of the 1984 ad was not a campaign worker of the Obama campaign. The author of the ad was exposed to be Phillip de Vellis of Blue State Digital. See: http://www.bluestatedigital.com/2007...984_video.html

42. My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace. Author makes a completely nonsensical claim that Obama?s campaign ?took over? MySpace which is A) not true and B) technically not possible without criminal activity.

43. I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other people?s words. Sen. Obama made use of similar words from a speech given by his friend and supporter, Governor Deval Patrick of Massachussetts. He has inspired people with plenty of other words before.

44. I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate. Sen. Obama has passed several important bills and amendments in the U.S. Senate. Information is available on the US Senate website.

45. I Have Always Been Against Iraq. Sen. Obama has consistently opposed the WAR in Iraq. Unlike the author of the list, Obama does not believe that funding of the troops should be cut immediately without being able to ensure a safe and orderly redeployment. As Obama explained: ?Once the bus is in the ditch, there are only so many ways to get it out.? (for quote see: http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...fronts/?page=2)

46. I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care. ?Universal healthcare? is defined as ?healthcare that is available universally.? Obama?s plan makes healthcare universally available. Take a look at his plan and judge for yourself: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/

47. I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail. No evidence for this accusation - it is unclear what it is referring to.

48. I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won?t wear a flag pin. The author assumes that everyone has to wear a flag pin to be patriotic. I love this country and I don?t wear one ? do you? You could at least hear him out: http://www.barackobama.com/factcheck..._a_patriot.php

49. My Wife Didn?t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country. Michelle Obama said she was proud of her country. Her statement did imply that she had been less proud before than she is now. I know I was a little less proud of my country when its government started torturing people and invading countries for no reason.

50. Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldn?t Support. Sen. Obama does not support Wal-Mart?s policies. TreeHouse is not ?affiliated with? Wal-Mart. The latter is a customer of TreeHouse. Michelle Obama has left TreeHouse. It should be noted that while Obama is not lying as the author suggests, even this type of ?connection? with Wal-Mart should be considered bad in the opinion of yours truly.

[KenP]

Originally Posted by LR wolf

I did live there,
at least his wife is strong enough to have a brain of her own, McCains wife wont even release her tax returns,
and he's had the same amount of experience as JFK

Most scholars agree JFK wasn't a great President. He was loved by millions, but he wasn't great.

McCain's wife just released some of her returns this weekend.

[LR wolf]

Originally Posted by KenP

Most scholars agree JFK wasn't a great President. He was loved by millions, but he wasn't great.

McCain's wife just released some of her returns this weekend.

Wow, never heard anyone complain about JFK before, talk about no pleasin'

and if she did, i retract my statement (but why only some?)

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by LR wolf

Recent Convert? never heard that, what are you saying he was Jewish? have you heard ANYONE say or imply he was Jewish ??????????

Check out the year he converted FROM being a Moslem... DAH !

has enough experince to meet the requirements set by the legislature, and Bush had the experience, and look where we are now,
Castro is not in office anymore Are you living with your head in the sand.!!! CASTRO is the DICTATOR in CUBA, Raul Castro

, and he never said he would sit with the Cuban Government, again please do your research...
anyone who would vote for his color is a MORON

I have a question for you...please don't look it up, just guess...

WHO, is buried in Grants Tome ?

[KenP]

Originally Posted by RubHer Yellow Ducky

I have a question for you...please don't look it up, just guess...

WHO, is buried in Grants Tome ?

No one. But Grant is buried in Grant's TOMB.

As for JFK, he was very charismatic and inspirational to the youth of America, just like Obama. JFK's ineptitude at the Wall and Summit Conference, plus the Bay of Pigs debacle showed the Russians what a lightweight he was. So much so that they parked Nuc's on our doorstep. Oh sure, you can say the missle crisis was averted, but was it and why did it happen anyway? Oh yeah, he didn't get the nuc's out of Turkey like he should have. Europe was freaking out and Castro was allowed to rule as a Communist nation in the Western Hemisphere. A big no-no according to Containment.

JFK brought the USA closer to nuclear war than any other president.

JFK also had NO plans to pull out of Vietnam and even made us more fully involved. Had he not been assasinated, it would likely have been him all Americans would have blamed on the war.

He is revered because he is the first of his generation, much like Clinton was. Free passes to the both of them...

[KenP]

Originally Posted by LR wolf

Wow, never heard anyone complain about JFK before, talk about no pleasin'

and if she did, i retract my statement (but why only some?)

Major in Political Science and History and you'll hear lots of complaints about him. Even from the liberal professors.

As for "some", not sure. Just curious, what do you make of the Clintons hiding all those Rose Law Firm documents in a White House closet for months only to "discover" them later?