What is irony? [Military Read Me]

[mountainbiker]

The HUMMER brand came into existence why?

HUMMER has its roots with the military but irony is how HUMMER supports the individual military member stationed overseas. The following is a quote from a HUMMER Customer Relationship Specialist:

Thank You for contacting HUMMER and your interest in the 2006 HUMMER H3. We appreciate the time you have taken to write us. The exporting of the HUMMER and any of its products from the United States is prohibited and United States and Canadian dealerships will not sell them to a consumer with the intent to export. If a H3 is purchased from an unauthorized source or shipped out of the United States, the General Motors factory warranty will be null and void and all service work normally covered under that warranty will be the sole responsibility of the purchaser. We apologize for the inconvenience.

WAY TO GO HUMMER -- THANKS FOR SUPPORTING THE TROOPS.

[blindzebra]

i think you"re misreading the intent of the policy

[blindzebra]

and no we don't think. It's a fact of history.

???

[Tex_h2]

Why don't you just buy a hummer from where ever you are. Isn't there a hummer dealership just about "everywhere" in the world. example: Austria to United Arab Emirate!

[mountainbiker]

Originally Posted by blindzebra

i think you"re misreading the intent of the policy

Could you please enlighten us on what you think HUMMER's intent is?


Here are how some of the dealerships interrupt it:

Anderson HUMMER (MD):

it has to be titled in to a US address

Sewell HUMMER (TX):

It is a HUMMER policy to not let a vehicle leave the US unless it has been titled in the United States.

Sutliff HUMMER (PA):

According to our dealer agreement with HUMMER any new vehicle we sell must originally be titled and registered to a United States address.

[dеiтайожни]

I wouldn't let a few silly rules or laws stop me from owning a Hummer...would you?

[mountainbiker]

Originally Posted by Tex_h2

Why don't you just buy a hummer from where ever you are. Isn't there a hummer dealership just about "everywhere" in the world. example: Austria to United Arab Emirate!

1. I recently lost the engine in my vehiclel therefore, due to its age and the remainder of my tour, I am entitled a shipment of a replacement POV from my home of record during my upcoming September home leave. This means free shipping back to my duty station.

2. While HUMMER may have dealers in other countries, the cost difference is substantial. It is 80% higher at my location. Other locations are slightly less but then I have the logisitics of getting it to me. This shipping would not be covered under my orders.

Many service members purchase their new vehicles through our Army and Air Force Exchange New Car Sales. However, they have dropped carrying any GM products due to their lack of support to the service members. ENCS now only sell Chrylser, Ford, and a few others.

[usetosellhummer]

Please tell me your not this dumb? I sold plenty that were shipped all over the world. have a family member or **** get on the phone and buy it from a dealer close to a port city. DON'T TELL THEM ITs GOING OUT OF THE COUNTRY. Title and pay the tax then catch a boat ride to where you are. Factory warentee won't do anygood where you are anyway. Damn, Oh and thank you for your service to our country! god Bless the USA.

[mountainbiker]

Originally Posted by dеiтайожни

I wouldn't let a few silly rules or laws stop me from owning a Hummer...would you?

LOL- Fortunately or unfortunately, I must obey the laws of my fine country.

While you nice U.S. taxpayers have been so kind to pay me to travel the world and meet others of other nations--you don't pay me enough to cover the warranty costs of a vehicle from a company that does seem really keen on customer service. My dream for ever has been to tailgate those here in my host country, let them feel the warm of my bumper, and for the rest read the F*ck Terrorism decal on the back.

PLEASE SUPPORT OUR TROOPS

[Hummer Guy]

Do you no longer have an address in the United States?

[DWPC]

The letter simply relates to the restrictions that almost all manufacturers have about unauthorized foreign sales. Imagine if you were the guy who paid or invested a bundle for the rights to sell Hummers in that country and learned that GM let US Hummer dealers export cars into your territory. There's also the US/non-US emissions & safety issues.

When I was in the military, we could order American vehicles through specific American dealers affiliated with the Exchange system. It may have been for US delivery only. I forget, it was a while back. Have you checked?

[mountainbiker]

Originally Posted by usetosellhummer

Please tell me your not this dumb? I sold plenty that were shipped all over the world. have a family member or **** get on the phone and buy it from a dealer close to a port city. DON'T TELL THEM ITs GOING OUT OF THE COUNTRY. Title and pay the tax then catch a boat ride to where you are. Factory warentee won't do anygood where you are anyway. Damn, Oh and thank you for your service to our country! god Bless the USA.

Thank you for your kind support. Two other unit members have the H3 and one of my buddies in Germany has the H2. All purchased them through our Army and Air Force Exchange System (AAFES). [AAFES is the service members Wal-Mart.] Because AAFES sold them last year when GM was a part of their product line, they have full warranty support.

Most larger installations have an AAFES service station and Auto Skills Center. They or other locally approved service facilities perform warranty work.

[CO Hummer]

This is strange because I was reading a similar post on the mountainbiking forum by a guy named h2driver.

[mountainbiker]

Originally Posted by Hummer Guy

Do you no longer have an address in the United States?

My home is in Texas, my dad is in Florida, my mom is in Pennsylvania, my wife's parents are in Maryland, and the remainder of my family are in California and New York.

My current vehicles are Texas titled and registered. The Ford has been shipped all over the world and has been covered under its U.S. warranty. The other was purchased through AAFES in Italy and has a 7/70,000 warranty anywhere I am stationed.

P.S. Say hi to J.T.

[mountainbiker]

Originally Posted by DWPC

The letter simply relates to the restrictions that almost all manufacturers have about unauthorized foreign sales. Imagine if you were the guy who paid or invested a bundle for the rights to sell Hummers in that country and learned that GM let US Hummer dealers export cars into your territory. There's also the US/non-US emissions & safety issues.

When I was in the military, we could order American vehicles through specific American dealers affiliated with the Exchange system. It may have been for US delivery only. I forget, it was a while back. Have you checked?

The Exchange is the store front. The men inside are a company called the Overseas Military Sales Group (OMSG). For the last 65 years, they work with manufacturers to get the best deal for service members. (This typically means fleet pricing.) Up until last year AAFES sold all GM products including HUMMER. GM has chosen to pull out.

I have two vehicles currently here as my wife too is on her own orders. We have thousands and thousands of cars here covering every car maker under the sun. Those same car makers have facilities here. There are no issues. In fact, I was just talking with a guy who shipped one of those Toyta Prius cars from Maryland. He takes it to the local Toyota dealer for his maintainence.

BTW all cars here must undergo an annual vehicle inspection, which includes emissions, in order to continue its registration.

[Hummer Guy]

Originally Posted by mountainbiker

My home is in Texas, my dad is in Florida, my mom is in Pennsylvania, my wife's parents are in Maryland, and the remainder of my family are in California and New York.

My current vehicles are Texas titled and registered. The Ford has been shipped all over the world and has been covered under its U.S. warranty. The other was purchased through AAFES in Italy and has a 7/70,000 warranty anywhere I am stationed.

P.S. Say hi to J.T.

So, I'm not suggesting you do this, but if a vehicle drives up onto a Hummer service drive in the U.S. -- how will they be able to tell if its been all over the world? This is your permanent home -- what if you just drove it to Mexico for a week? That wouldn't void it -- aren't you really just on a longer version of a vacation?

[mountainbiker]

Originally Posted by Hummer Guy

So, I'm not suggesting you do this, but if a vehicle drives up onto a Hummer service drive in the U.S. -- how will they be able to tell if its been all over the world? This is your permanent home -- what if you just drove it to Mexico for a week? That wouldn't void it -- aren't you really just on a longer version of a vacation?

I'll the pose the analogy to HUMMER. Maybe you could ask Sewell.

[mountainbiker]

Originally Posted by Hummer Guy

So, I'm not suggesting you do this, but if a vehicle drives up onto a Hummer service drive in the U.S. -- how will they be able to tell if its been all over the world? This is your permanent home -- what if you just drove it to Mexico for a week? That wouldn't void it -- aren't you really just on a longer version of a vacation?

Well they were extremely quick in getting back to me; unfortunately, they not much interest in my business. Here is what HUMMER says about Mexico and other foreign countries:

Thank You again for contacting HUMMER! You have reached our Marketing department and seeking answers regarding a military purchase of a HUMMER vehicle. It is our understanding that military purchases are done through the Air force Exchange Service [AAFES]. Unfortunately, as you are aware, HUMMER is no longer affiliated with the company once used to handle Overseas Military Vehicle Sales. Therefore, to best answer you inquiries regarding overseas military purchases, please consult with the Air Force Exchange Service as our marketing office do not have the resources to consult you in this type of purchase. We sincerely apologize for this inconvenience to you.

Generally, our overseas warranty is covered as follows:

Warranty Coverage for Touring Owner's from Mexico and Foreign Countries (except Canada):
Owner's touring in the U.S. with a GM vehicle sold in Mexico or other foreign country and requiring emergency warranty service; dealer should provide service and request customer payment for the work. The owner may seek reimbursement upon return to their home country.

Warranty Coverage for U.S. Owner's Touring in Canada, Mexico and Foreign Countries:
U.S. owner's touring in Canada, Mexico or other foreign countries should seek emergency warranty repairs, preferably from a GM dealer selling and servicing the particular brand GM vehicle. If warranty repair charges are paid for by the owner, a reimbursement request through his/her selling dealer should be made upon return to the U.S. by submitting the original paid receipt showing the work performed, proof of ownership and any failed parts, if possible.

New Vehicle Limited Warranty applies to GM vehicles registered in the United States and normally operated in the United States or Canada. If you have permanently relocated and established household residency in another country, GM may authorize the performance of repairs under the U.S. warranty in their country. Please contact an authorized GM dealer in their country for assistance. The GM dealership in their country may require them to pay for the repair.

Pleased be advised once again that the exporting of the HUMMER and any of its products from the United States is prohibited. United States and Canadian dealerships will not sell them to a consumer with the intent to export. If a HUMMER was purchased from an unauthorized source or shipped out of the United States, the General Motors factory warranty would be invalid and all service work normally covered under that warranty would be the sole responsibility of the purchaser. We apologize for the inconvenience.

[DWPC]

Originally Posted by mountainbiker

GM has chosen to pull out.

You didn't say that in the OP. Now I understand your beef.