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11-15-2006, 01:34 PM
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Bad news for Europe
Hi,
I have bad news for the Hummer H1 and H2 in Europe.
There is a new law in Europe that requires that all the vehicles with a weigth (GROSS VEHICLE WEIGHT RATING,GVWR) more then 3500Kg (7700lbs) to have a
- Speed limitation of 90KM/h (55Miles/h)
- Tacho meter
I recently sold my H2 because I would not drive on that speed and would not use the tacho. And I think that I'm not going to be the only one.
I think that the sales of Hummer in Europe will go down very fast. The only once that they will sell in Europe will be the H3
So far my adventure with my beloved H2
PJ
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11-15-2006, 01:42 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
I heard about the speed limitation, but not about the tacho. I know I have to be limited the next time I'll go to technical inspection, but after inspection, I'll just remove the limitation again. There's no need for a tacho as far as I know.
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11-15-2006, 01:49 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
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Originally Posted by frenzy1
I heard about the speed limitation, but not about the tacho. I know I have to be limited the next time I'll go to technical inspection, but after inspection, I'll just remove the limitation again. There's no need for a tacho as far as I know.
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I went yesterday with my Chevrolet and asked to the guys at the inspection. Tacho is required.
Remove the limitation is OK but if they just "speed cam" you once over 70 where you can drive 90 and over 90 were you can drive 120 then it's going to be very expensive.
Greetz PJ
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11-15-2006, 01:51 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
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11-15-2006, 02:04 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
Thanks for the link. I'll have my car mechanic check it out. But, even if I have to install a tacho, I'd never get rid of my Hummer ! Love it too much !!!
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11-15-2006, 03:56 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
Since I cannot read Dutch, wtf is a tacho?
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11-15-2006, 04:27 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
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Originally Posted by OldHiker
Since I cannot read Dutch, wtf is a tacho?
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Well a Tacho is a box that is connected on the vehicle bus. The police is using this to control the driving time, rest time, speed, ...
This is mose common in trucks but since a Hummer is a truck in Europe we have to install this.
BTW Tachograph is a English word: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tachograph
PJ
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11-15-2006, 05:01 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
Damn...
And I thought we had problems with the left wingers...
Don't they realize that the H2 has the best pedestrial safety hood!?!?
(Especially with a nice brush guard!)
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11-15-2006, 05:19 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
Left wing tree huggin' politicians are a plague here in Europe. All 4x4's, SUV, terrain vehicles are in the line of fire !!!
If you want, I'd be happy to put some of those tree huggers in a container and send 'em to the USA !!!
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11-15-2006, 06:23 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
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Originally Posted by frenzy1
Left wing tree huggin' politicians are a plague here in Europe. All 4x4's, SUV, terrain vehicles are in the line of fire !!!
If you want, I'd be happy to put some of those tree huggers in a container and send 'em to the USA !!!
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Hahaha! NO THANKS! We have more than enough. Send them to some deserted island and we'll use 'em for target practice.
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11-15-2006, 08:49 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
any links to this in english?
First ive heard of it.
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11-15-2006, 09:04 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
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It's Greek:
Greek t?chos; akin to tach?s swift
Greek takhu-, from takhus, swift
Greek -graphos (something) drawn or written, one who draws or writes
Greek comb. form of graph
So what they want you to do is install something that tracks your speed that can be checked and you can be ticketed for the recording's findings. That sucks.
Can it be randomly checked? In other words, can an officer just stop you for no reason and se what the technogragh says?
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11-16-2006, 01:26 PM
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Yep. Cops can indeed randomly check. I don't say they'll do it for the rare hummers in Belgium, 'cause hardly any cops know a Hummer falls under that "tachograph law". But, things would be very very bad if I have and accident and after checking they notice I've been foolin' around with my tacho/speed limitation device. I'd get a HUUUUGE fine and insurance wouldn't pay for the damage to my truck and to the people I was in the accident with. So consequences are really hard if I'd remove or alter the speed limitation device.
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11-16-2006, 06:23 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
HU ???
Here in Italy are in Europe but this is a problem for heavy truck that transport goods or people but only for works (as bus with more than 9 people and driver)...
But the H2 is under 3500 kgs !!!
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11-16-2006, 06:44 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
The ACLU, liberals, would be going ape chit over something like that here. Holy crap!
Hell, I don't even like it!
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11-17-2006, 01:45 AM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
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Originally Posted by Ernie Italy
HU ???
But the H2 is under 3500 kgs !!!
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Blacked out maybe - But my bling weighs me in higher I guess.
actually what is the weight of a stock h2?
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11-17-2006, 02:20 AM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
GVWR 8600 lbs
Curb weight 6400 lbs
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11-17-2006, 03:24 AM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
So the solution is to buy a HMMWV, which only goes about 55MPH until things start falling off?
But, heck, 55MPH isn't so bad. Europe isn't all that big:
I'd be afraid to drive my H2 around over there any faster. I only ever do about 70MPH on the interstate, and that drops on winding, hilly sections. I don't even go the speed limit out West (where it's 75MPH) because it's just too noisy, scary, and sucks the fuel.
Oh, I found this looking for a map comparison:
Last edited by BlueHUMMERH2 : 11-17-2006 at 03:27 AM.
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11-17-2006, 05:57 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
little bit geo problem..
Europe include france spain greece the other parts of italy...and the other...
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11-17-2006, 06:06 PM
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Re: Bad news for Europe
Most americans don't know much geography beyond their own backyard. He probably has never had a passport either. Although now with the Canadian and Mexican borders requiring them there will be alot of hillbillies headed to the customs office.
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