Hummer Forums by Elcova  
Forums - Home
Source Decals

Source Motors
Custom. Accessories.

H2 Accessories
H3 Accessories
Other Vehicles

H2 Source

H2 Member Photos
H2 Owners Map
H2 Classifieds
H2 Photo Gallery
SUT Photo Gallery
H2 Details

H2 Club

Chapters
Application

H3 Source

H3 Member Photos
H3 Classifieds
H3 Photo Gallery
H3 Owners Map
H3 Details
H3T Concept

H1 Source

H1 Member Photos
H1 Classifieds
H1 Photo Gallery
H1 Details

General Info

Hummer Dealers
Contact
Advertise

Sponsored Ads










 


Source Motors - custom. accessories.


Go Back   Hummer Forums by Elcova > Hummer H2 Discussion Forums > Technical Discussion and Customizing your H2

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-01-2012, 05:41 PM
jarek m's Avatar
jarek m jarek m is offline
Hummer Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 143
jarek m is on a distinguished road
Default No start.

So the truck lasted problem free about two years after big rebuild, good run for a 200k truck with $2k refresh.

Air ride compressor is out again after 50k miles or so.


But the big problem is new no start and dead OBD2.


The truck just died on the go and wouldn't crank after. It has all the symptoms of a dead battery but its not it, I also bench tested the starter... Ok.
Recently I started getting low engine power and it would clear by turning the ignition off.
All fuses ok, starter relay tested ok.
__________________
Missing the times when things where made to last.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-01-2012, 07:56 PM
HUMTECH's Avatar
HUMTECH HUMTECH is offline
Hummer Authority
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,251
HUMTECH is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: No start.

Do you have a remote starter that is tapped into your data line right behing the data link connector? If so remove the splice and try that.
__________________
1987 Jeep YJ 403hp sbc 653hp on NOS
1998 Chev Z71
2007 Chev Trailblazer SS
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-01-2012, 09:32 PM
jarek m's Avatar
jarek m jarek m is offline
Hummer Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 143
jarek m is on a distinguished road
Default Re: No start.

Not anymore, that's the first thing I took out, reconnected al the splices
__________________
Missing the times when things where made to last.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-01-2012, 09:38 PM
jarek m's Avatar
jarek m jarek m is offline
Hummer Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 143
jarek m is on a distinguished road
Default Re: No start.

Also today I astablished that starter cranks the engine when jumped, no start. Ignition relay clicks but starter relay don't, even when swapped.
__________________
Missing the times when things where made to last.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-01-2012, 10:01 PM
HUMTECH's Avatar
HUMTECH HUMTECH is offline
Hummer Authority
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,251
HUMTECH is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: No start.

Try using a jumper wire across pins 87 and 30 of the starter relay and see if starter cranks
__________________
1987 Jeep YJ 403hp sbc 653hp on NOS
1998 Chev Z71
2007 Chev Trailblazer SS
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-01-2012, 10:08 PM
HUMTECH's Avatar
HUMTECH HUMTECH is offline
Hummer Authority
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,251
HUMTECH is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: No start.

__________________
1987 Jeep YJ 403hp sbc 653hp on NOS
1998 Chev Z71
2007 Chev Trailblazer SS
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-01-2012, 11:25 PM
Hellz Hellz is offline
Hummer Expert
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Burnsville, MN
Posts: 657
Hellz is on a distinguished road
Default Re: No start.

is teh passlock icon lite on your dash?
__________________
2003 Black Hummer H2 Adventure Package
4.88 gears *** Cognito UCA & SwayBar Links *** Kryptonite tie rods *** K&N CAI *** 37x12.50xR20 BFG KM2 Mud Terrain's *** 20x10 Black KMC Rockstars *** EBC Slotted Rotors *** N-FAB Sidesteps *** Line-X Grill *** Recon Smoke Cab Lights ***Diablo Predator U7193
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-02-2012, 12:50 AM
jarek m's Avatar
jarek m jarek m is offline
Hummer Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 143
jarek m is on a distinguished road
Default Re: No start.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hellz
is teh passlock icon lite on your dash?

It comes on and off once a week
__________________
Missing the times when things where made to last.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-02-2012, 09:19 PM
jarek m's Avatar
jarek m jarek m is offline
Hummer Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 143
jarek m is on a distinguished road
Default Re: No start.

Quote:
Originally Posted by HUMTECH
Try using a jumper wire across pins 87 and 30 of the starter relay and see if starter cranks




The truck started crankin but no start.
__________________
Missing the times when things where made to last.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-02-2012, 09:38 PM
jarek m's Avatar
jarek m jarek m is offline
Hummer Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 143
jarek m is on a distinguished road
Default Re: No start.

10A crank fuse lights up when key in crank position...

Starter relay 87, 30 good 85 goes positive when key in second position, so I'm assuming that 86 should get grounded for cranking?
__________________
Missing the times when things where made to last.

Last edited by jarek m : 12-02-2012 at 09:49 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-02-2012, 09:49 PM
HUMTECH's Avatar
HUMTECH HUMTECH is offline
Hummer Authority
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,251
HUMTECH is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: No start.

Check the other 2 pins of the start relay, one should have power in run position and the other should have ground in the crank position
__________________
1987 Jeep YJ 403hp sbc 653hp on NOS
1998 Chev Z71
2007 Chev Trailblazer SS
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-02-2012, 10:32 PM
HUMTECH's Avatar
HUMTECH HUMTECH is offline
Hummer Authority
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,251
HUMTECH is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: No start.

If its not getting a ground during crank ecm is not sending crank signal.
__________________
1987 Jeep YJ 403hp sbc 653hp on NOS
1998 Chev Z71
2007 Chev Trailblazer SS
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-03-2012, 12:14 AM
jarek m's Avatar
jarek m jarek m is offline
Hummer Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 143
jarek m is on a distinguished road
Default Re: No start.

Quote:
Originally Posted by HUMTECH
If its not getting a ground during crank ecm is not sending crank signal.

Thats what it looks like. You wouldn't happen to have a decent ignition diagram?
__________________
Missing the times when things where made to last.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-03-2012, 12:34 AM
jarek m's Avatar
jarek m jarek m is offline
Hummer Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 143
jarek m is on a distinguished road
Default Re: No start.

No crank signal, no OBD conection and no spark or injection... ECU
__________________
Missing the times when things where made to last.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-04-2012, 01:28 AM
HUMTECH's Avatar
HUMTECH HUMTECH is offline
Hummer Authority
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,251
HUMTECH is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: No start.

As long as the data line is good, power and ground at ecm is good then ecm is bad.
__________________
1987 Jeep YJ 403hp sbc 653hp on NOS
1998 Chev Z71
2007 Chev Trailblazer SS
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 12-04-2012, 06:23 AM
jarek m's Avatar
jarek m jarek m is offline
Hummer Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 143
jarek m is on a distinguished road
Default Re: No start.

That's where I'm heading, good to have second opinion, thanks.
__________________
Missing the times when things where made to last.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 12-10-2012, 08:23 PM
jarek m's Avatar
jarek m jarek m is offline
Hummer Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 143
jarek m is on a distinguished road
Default Re: No start.

All grounds tested ok and 2 pink tested 12v on the ECM plugs.



ECM looked ok in every way


__________________
Missing the times when things where made to last.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 12-11-2012, 05:44 PM
jarek m's Avatar
jarek m jarek m is offline
Hummer Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 143
jarek m is on a distinguished road
Default Re: No start.

New ECM in route...
__________________
Missing the times when things where made to last.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 12-15-2012, 06:15 PM
jarek m's Avatar
jarek m jarek m is offline
Hummer Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 143
jarek m is on a distinguished road
Default Re: No start.

New ECM still no start :/
__________________
Missing the times when things where made to last.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 12-16-2012, 12:34 AM
HUMTECH's Avatar
HUMTECH HUMTECH is offline
Hummer Authority
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,251
HUMTECH is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: No start.

Did the dealer program it for you
__________________
1987 Jeep YJ 403hp sbc 653hp on NOS
1998 Chev Z71
2007 Chev Trailblazer SS
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:53 AM.


Powered by vBulletin Version 3.0.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.