Here she is with new shoes

kacyk · #1 10-01-2005, 06:54 PM

MKW M18 wrapped in Toyo Open Country M/T's 35/12.50-18. Absolutely no rubbing with an inch to spare. I'll probably need to adjust the torsion bars up front if I want to do some serious wheeling but even after two H2's, that's never happened.

I can't stress enough getting the right off set on the wheels. To test out whether the tires would fit the tire store ordered a single 18 inch wheel with the "same" off set and back spacing as the MKW's. It rubbed with those wheels, but I have an inch to spare with these wheels.

Morale of the story? Even with the same specs wheels will vary depending on who makes them. Also, with the "other" wheel the tires stuck out of the fender about two inches. With the MKW's it sticks out only 0.5 inches.

Jason sells the correct wheels on this site. Go to the H3 Accessories section and then look at the wheels he offers. I am so glad that i went with the correct wheels. Otherwise, I'd have rubbing and the whole torsion or lift issue. Additionally, I'd be kicking up every darn pebble onto my rear fender.

kacyk · #2 10-01-2005, 06:54 PM

MKW M18 wrapped in Toyo Open Country M/T's 35/12.50-18. Absolutely no rubbing with an inch to spare. I'll probably need to adjust the torsion bars up front if I want to do some serious wheeling but even after two H2's, that's never happened.

I can't stress enough getting the right off set on the wheels. To test out whether the tires would fit the tire store ordered a single 18 inch wheel with the "same" off set and back spacing as the MKW's. It rubbed with those wheels, but I have an inch to spare with these wheels.

Morale of the story? Even with the same specs wheels will vary depending on who makes them. Also, with the "other" wheel the tires stuck out of the fender about two inches. With the MKW's it sticks out only 0.5 inches.

Jason sells the correct wheels on this site. Go to the H3 Accessories section and then look at the wheels he offers. I am so glad that i went with the correct wheels. Otherwise, I'd have rubbing and the whole torsion or lift issue. Additionally, I'd be kicking up every darn pebble onto my rear fender.

BumM3r · #3 10-01-2005, 07:19 PM

Looks awesome! Any lift kit or is that with stock height?

kacyk · #4 10-01-2005, 07:24 PM

Stock, but I want a lift BAAAAD! But I'm not comfortable with the whole warranty issue. It needs something, though. The rake (stink bug look) needs to go.

kacyk · #5 10-01-2005, 07:33 PM

Fits very well

2xtreme · #6 10-01-2005, 11:04 PM

looks nice

timgco · #7 10-02-2005, 04:54 PM

DAMN! that's all I can say!
Can you post more pics from different angles?

PLEASE?

kacyk · #8 10-02-2005, 08:02 PM

Thanks Timgco,

Here's a closer look at the front to show that there us plenty of room inside the wheel well. The actual tire measurement is 34.50 inches. I used a tape measure (not very scientific).

The pics I have really do not do it justice so I'll wait for a sunny day and wash the rig and wheels before I post more.

I had my wife drive it around the cul-de-sac. the larger tires really do change the personality of the rig.

timgco · #9 10-02-2005, 08:11 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kacyk:
Thanks Timgco,

Here's a closer look at the front to show that there us plenty of room inside the wheel well. The actual tire measurement is 34.50 inches. I used a tape measure (not very scientific).

The pics I have really do not do it justice so I'll wait for a sunny day and wash the rig and wheels before I post more.

I had my wife drive it around the cul-de-sac. the larger tires really do change the personality of the rig. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks, I can't wait to see more! That set up looks perfect. Atfer seeing that, I decided not to lift the truck. I think I will just do that 2" set up on the front with the add of those extended keys. That'll give pleanty of room for off roading/ flexing those front tires.

kacyk · #10 10-02-2005, 08:40 PM

I've heard mixed reviews about torsion keys. But if they won't kill the front end I think that's the way to go.

Not sure if you noticed but the rear end of the Rancho 4" lift doesn't show a significant increase in the rear height. Most of the height seems to come only from the front. That being said, if you lift the front with the torsion keys, you'll get a similar look.

However, I'm just a bit concerned since the reviews are so mixed. Have you gone on the SUV World forum? There's tons of opinions and comment about those.

H3H · #11 10-03-2005, 10:56 PM

So hypothetical question... Since 35's fit without cranking the torsion bars and don't rub, could 37's fit if the torsion bars are cranked/fender triming?

My torsion bars have been cranked ~2 inches for the past 3000 miles. The ride is quite a bit harsher, but I actually like the higher stance and the rougher ride. I want to put some 37 bfg all-terrains (36.6 inch actual height) on. Kacyk, you said you have an extra inch, plus lets say 2 inches for the cranked torsion bars...Do you think they might fit?

timgco · #12 10-03-2005, 11:33 PM

Is it clean yet?

more pics more pics more pics

crotch_rocket_pilot · #13 10-04-2005, 01:00 AM

I like it, very nice. Im jealous!

kacyk · #14 10-04-2005, 01:06 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
Is it clean yet?

more pics more pics more pics </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry, I did have the tire store turn the torsion bars twice around to give it a little lift up front. The gain was marginal. I leave on a business trip in the morning and won't be back till Friday. I'll post some pics Saturday.

kacyk · #15 10-04-2005, 01:15 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3H:
So hypothetical question... Since 35's fit without cranking the torsion bars and don't rub, could 37's fit if the torsion bars are cranked/fender triming?

My torsion bars have been cranked ~2 inches for the past 3000 miles. The ride is quite a bit harsher, but I actually like the higher stance and the rougher ride. I want to put some 37 bfg all-terrains (36.6 inch actual height) on. Kacyk, you said you have an extra inch, plus lets say 2 inches for the cranked torsion bars...Do you think they might fit? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Even with the 35's it's very tight, especially at full crank fo the steering wheel. I'll post some better pics to show how massive these 35's look on the H3. I am getting compliments left and right. Also, many people who are not familiar with Hummers are mistaking it for an H2. The bigger tires give the overall look of the truck tons of mass. I can't believe how much bigger the truck looks just because of the tires.

As for 37's, I don't recommend it without a lift. Also, there's the power issue. It takes a lot more effort out of the 5-Banger to get those massive tires rolling. I really think 35 is the limit.

Let me post some better pics and I think you'll be happy with the 35's. I imagine 35/12.50-18 Nitto Mud Grapplers to look sinister on this rig. The only draw back is the damn noise. But then, you might like that.

Here's a pic of the Nitto Mud Grappler tread that was on my first H2.

timgco · #16 10-04-2005, 01:18 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by kacyk:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by timgco:
Is it clean yet?

more pics more pics more pics </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Sorry, I did have the tire store turn the torsion bars twice around to give it a little lift up front. The gain was marginal. I leave on a business trip in the morning and won't be back till Friday. I'll post some pics Saturday.

</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

So, are you saying that the tire shop turned up the T Bars and you now ave one inch to spare?

OR

Did you turn them up since those pics and now have more room?

kacyk · #17 10-04-2005, 01:27 AM

That pic is stock. I just had them crank it up today to see if the ride would be compromised. With two full turns the ride is stock and it raises it a little. Looks better, I think but rear gap (between the top of the tire and fender) is still 1.5" taller in the back. I hate that stink bug look!

H3H · #18 10-04-2005, 02:51 AM

Hmmm...the power issue is something to consider, I'm just curious if they'll fit without major rubbing...

Sure look like they would be able to fit if the front end was evened up with the back (like on my truck)

kacyk · #19 10-04-2005, 03:39 AM

Man, 37's with a 2 inch torsion lift is going to be hell on your front end. The best way to check would be to do what I did. Have a tire store get a wheel with the right back spacing and try a 37" MTR (or ?). Whis way, you'll know for sure. But, you're going to be flooring it all the time to get at speed.

kacyk · #20 10-04-2005, 04:01 AM

Okay, another crappy pic but I guess when you compare it to the "before" pic (above), two turns of the torsion bar does make a visible difference.

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