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06-20-2005, 11:19 PM
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are the stock ones working or needing to go to aftermarket one when they change tires from stock to bigger , example 37's or 38's
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06-20-2005, 11:19 PM
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are the stock ones working or needing to go to aftermarket one when they change tires from stock to bigger , example 37's or 38's
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06-21-2005, 02:13 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by superbeast:
are the stock ones working or needing to go to aftermarket one when they change tires from stock to bigger , example 37's or 38's </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I changed mine to the Rancho. I have 37x12.5 MT/Rs
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06-21-2005, 02:33 AM
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Paragon,
Was there a noticeable difference?
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06-21-2005, 11:32 AM
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I have had a Rancho stabilizer and 37" BFG MTs for a while now, and yes there is a noticeable difference. I haven't rebalanced the tire since I threw the bead on the HOPE event with no change. I recommend it with the wheel balancers for a perfect on-to-off road drive.
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06-21-2005, 03:18 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Adam in CO:
I have had a Rancho stabilizer and 37" BFG MTs for a while now, and yes there is a noticeable difference. I haven't rebalanced the tire since I threw the bead on the HOPE event with no change. I recommend it with the wheel balancers for a perfect on-to-off road drive. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Are those the same wheel balancers that wrecked your stock rims?
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06-21-2005, 04:23 PM
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Those are the automatic balancers right?
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06-22-2005, 12:39 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Paragon,
Was there a noticeable difference? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, very noticable. Main thing is that there is no bump steering from potholes and other bumps as compared to stock. Have not been off-road since installing it and/or the rancho shocks, so don't know there. My stock stabilizer and shocks were still in good condition and fully dampening but are just not as good or responsive as the Ranchos.
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06-24-2005, 01:50 PM
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Hey Paragon,
Did you use the Rancho mounting kit?? or did you pull the old one off and mount it the same way. There are special tools to pull off the mounting rod for the stock stabilizer.
How did you mount yours?
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06-24-2005, 02:21 PM
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I used the stock "situation." But the Rancho kit comes with a compression bolt that mounts to the idler arm. All you need to pull the stabilizer off the idler arm is a idler/pitman puller. You can get one for about $15 or you can use some of the universal pullers.
With puller in hand it took about about the same amount of time to replace as a shock and is just as easy.
But to answer your question more directly, there is no need for the universal mounting kit.
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06-24-2005, 02:29 PM
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Nice to know...
Becasue I got the mounting kit and says in bold type NOT to use the old bolt loaction.
So you used the bolt that came with the Rancho 5000 shock?
You did you press the mounting pin back onto the pitman arm?
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06-24-2005, 02:44 PM
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One more question Paragon...
The mounting pin that comes with the Rancho 5000 is pretty wide. I will have to remove the metal bushing/sleeve from the shock head to get the mounting pin to fit into Rancho shock. Is this right?? That would mean that the rubber bushing in shock head would ride directly against the mounting pin....would this create excessive friction...especially after you torque nut with washer (on the mounting pin) to 35 ft-lbs? Should I lube a bit?
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Patriot:
Nice to know...
Becasue I got the mounting kit and says in bold type NOT to use the old bolt loaction.
So you used the bolt that came with the Rancho 5000 shock?
You did you press the mounting pin back onto the pitman arm? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I ordered mine specifically for the H2 with the RS9000 shocks specifically for the H2 as a "kit" and there was no extra mounting kit. It mounted straight up just like the original (with exception to the pin design)
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06-25-2005, 12:23 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Patriot:
One more question Paragon...
The mounting pin that comes with the Rancho 5000 is pretty wide. I will have to remove the metal bushing/sleeve from the shock head to get the mounting pin to fit into Rancho shock. Is this right?? That would mean that the rubber bushing in shock head would ride directly against the mounting pin....would this create excessive friction...especially after you torque nut with washer (on the mounting pin) to 35 ft-lbs? Should I lube a bit? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I didn't remove anything. Let me check it. I'll see if I can get a pic of it also if possible.
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06-25-2005, 12:25 AM
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Yeah...I have the same pin.
Once you use the puller to get the old pin (and shock) off, you install the rancho pin with a castellated nut and cotter pin...right?
My question is when you mount the ball end of the shock on that pin. I had to remove the metal bushing/sleeve to get the shock to fit onto the pin.
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06-25-2005, 12:32 AM
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I am down at my ranch and can't find a camera, not that it would do you much good. But I think I remember a sleeve that was extra still in the box that I did not use.
I don't think you lube the poly bushings at all. I didn't.
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06-25-2005, 12:33 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Patriot:
Yeah...I have the same pin.
Once you use the puller to get the old pin (and shock) off, you install the rancho pin with a castellated nut and cotter pin...right?
My question is when you mount the ball end of the shock on that pin. I had to remove the metal bushing/sleeve to get the shock to fit onto the pin. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>We're on the same page. That metal sleeve was loose in my box and I never used it. So no it doesn't work with it. If it does I would like to know how.
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06-25-2005, 11:41 AM
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Just finished....man, what a difference!
I highly recommend this upgrade.
Bump steer on Pennsylvania backroads is MUCH better...and turns are smoother.
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