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09-14-2006, 12:17 AM
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OFFROAD SUSPENSION
Hey guys,
Just wondering why I keep hearing everyone say that the suspensions for H3 Rough Country, Tough Counrty and Rancho are only street lifts and not good for offroad. Can anyone tell me?
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09-14-2006, 12:25 AM
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Re: OFFROAD SUSPENSION
Tell you what sweet pea???
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09-14-2006, 12:36 AM
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Re: OFFROAD SUSPENSION
why they say they are no good for offroad
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09-14-2006, 03:52 AM
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Re: OFFROAD SUSPENSION
the RC and TC are the same co. used to make unsafe crap lifts and still do . the rancho is ok except you cant air down very far without your tires hitting the steering knuckles etc.
most mass produced lifts are for looks , if you really want it to kick some crawler azz cut off all stock suspension addd a solid front axle and widen the track by 4-6 inches then you could go up a ways and run some 40's but you would want to get a older Z71 front diff , its the same as ours but cast IRON much more bullet proof than these aluminum ones . thats where i would begin then taper the nose and tail , fenders gone etc. etc. probably not too pretty
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Last edited by NEOCON1 : 09-14-2006 at 03:54 AM.
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09-14-2006, 04:54 AM
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Re: OFFROAD SUSPENSION
I spoke with my 2 hard core wheeling experts (Cranky Steve) and Inchworm Jim.
IFS is not as strong as we like to think. Changing the geometry more than what turning the torsion bars does, changes everything.
The reason most of these lifts are for street is that they are bolt on. You have to have offset wheels, which add even more strain to all the suspension parts.
The differential in the front is relocated. Cross members relocated, etc.
SAS is the ONLY way to have a super tough trail rig. There really is no other way. (Until someone commits to building one) At that point, you would have to do SO much fabricating, you may as well do SAS.
When and ONLY WHEN, I see H3's with lifts in advertisements, out on the trail, on the Rubicon, will I believe that they are trail worthy.
If you want a rig to run on the trails, not dirt roads, then turn your bars and get some 35's.
If you want something that looks awesome, but would not last long wheeling, get the lift.
HOWEVER, they said if the lift is under 2 inches, it is fine, They saw an LC on the 'Con with a 2 inch lift and it did very well. (Which is about as much as we can get out of the T-Bar turn and 35's)
SAS cost????? 10K
Love your rig the way she is.....already perfect.
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09-14-2006, 04:57 AM
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Re: OFFROAD SUSPENSION
Love your rig the way she is.....already perfect.
X2 their great
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09-14-2006, 04:57 AM
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Re: OFFROAD SUSPENSION
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Originally Posted by NEOCON1
if you really want it to kick some crawler azz cut off all stock suspension addd a solid front axle and widen the track by 4-6 inches then you could go up a ways and run some 40's but you would want to get a older Z71 front diff , its the same as ours but cast IRON much more bullet proof than these aluminum ones .
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I would get the Dana 60's locked front and rear
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09-14-2006, 06:07 AM
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Re: OFFROAD SUSPENSION
Quote:
Originally Posted by NEOCON1
Love your rig the way she is.....already perfect.
X2 their great
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X3
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09-14-2006, 07:00 AM
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Re: OFFROAD SUSPENSION
The offroad testing done by Hummer/GM is more thorough than any of the aftermarket garage stuff.
S.
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09-14-2006, 11:25 AM
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Re: OFFROAD SUSPENSION
No doubt but BORING!!
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