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Old 01-25-2006, 11:21 AM
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I should have it in about a week.It should fit behind console with room to open rear cup holder.Rear right seat can still fold down,I have to make some kind of removable mount(velcro) for folding down left side.Holds 8 cans it has a double insulated glass door.I might paint the back part black.Hopefully it will mount were I want otherwise I will put in cargo area.Probobly tap in to 12 volt outlet so its on while driving and 20 minutes after.I will post pics when I receive it.
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I should have it in about a week.It should fit behind console with room to open rear cup holder.Rear right seat can still fold down,I have to make some kind of removable mount(velcro) for folding down left side.Holds 8 cans it has a double insulated glass door.I might paint the back part black.Hopefully it will mount were I want otherwise I will put in cargo area.Probobly tap in to 12 volt outlet so its on while driving and 20 minutes after.I will post pics when I receive it.
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Please take some photos of it in the vehicle, if you could. Will be getting something like this before heading to the desert later this year.
Will you be wiring it into the RAP circuit? Since the accessory plugs are hot at all times, so if you leave it plugged in, it could drain the battery
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Since the accessory plugs are hot at all times, so if you leave it plugged in, it could drain the battery </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I thought the accessory plugs went off in 20 minutes.I could have swore I read here that its timed out.

I noticed back of front console has a lip on bottom and the backs not flat also I must leave room for console lid to flip. Theres definatly room to open cup holder though I dont beleve the fridge door will open all the way.I have to play with it and make some kind of mount.Otherwise it will go in the cargo area but I prefer it in the back seat.The right side rear seat has room to fold down without removing fridge.

Ill list pics when I get it and figure out what to do.
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.... gonna go outbid you

I thought I read the 20 minute thing somewhere too.
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Looks cool, make sure to post your install pics!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">.... gonna go outbid you </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its on its way auction ended.They probobly have more up.I checked prices online but this was best deal.

Anyone know for sure if those outlets go off or not after 20 minutes
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Three reasons why I am positive they don't go out in 20 minutes.
One, they are not shown on the GM RAP circuit schematics.
Two, the GM schematics for the accessory plugs show:
One of the front ones (I assume the left) is powered through the 20A AUX PWR 1 Fuse (51), while the other front one, and the rear is fed through the 30A AUX PWR 2 Fuse (45), and both fuses are connected via the underhood fuse block bus to the RED wire that connects directly to the battery.
I have plugged in my GPS and left it overnight, but when I come out in the AM to get in the H3, the Green power light is on and I can see it in the window before I hit the remote.
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One reason I am sure. I had a dead battery with one of those fridges one morning. Experience is the best teacher.
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Thanks f5fstop I thought I read they went off.
figured you were right I havent heard of you being wrong yet.
I guess I have to tap in a rap circuit maybee put a 12 outlet under seat on that metal plate.Does the harness underneath the seat have a rap circuit ?

Im suprised they put my lighter in the left port if the right one is higher amp
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I guess the right socket is 30 amps because it also runs the cargo one.

Is there a way to tap into the dome light it has rundown protection after 20 minutes.Its better for the fridge than rap because rap goes of when you open and shut door if hooked up to dome circuit it would stay on for 20 minutes after leaving truck.
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Damn, $35! I could get a couple dozen of those instead of one ARB.

Can't you just plug it into a cig lighter?
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Can't you just plug it into a cig lighter? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thats to easy. Then I got to remember to shut it off or risk dead battery.

Damn, $35! I could get a couple dozen of those instead of one ARB.
Where?
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http://www.pangaea-expeditions.com/ARBaccessories/

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> ARB 33 Quart Freezer/Fridge
The smallest of the three ARB Freezer/Fridges, the 33 quart model is a great choice for those who go out on day trips and the occasional weekend outing. Its 33 quart size allows you to carry your drinks, sandwiches and snacks and keep them ice cold.

ARB 33 quart Freezer/Fridge - $664.95

ARB 42 Quart Freezer/Fridge
The intermediate size ARB Freezer/Fridge, the 42 quart is the fridge to choose if you go need more storage space for larger groups or for longer trips away from civilization. This Freezer/Fridge has almost the same size footprint as the smaller 33q Freezer/Fridge, but gets its additional capacity through its extra height. This fridge stows well in the area created by folding down the short side of a Discovery's back seat. It also fits well when mounted sideways between the wheel wells of a Defender.

ARB 42 quart Freezer/Fridge - $734.95

ARB 63 Quart Freezer/Fridge
The largest of the three Freezer/Fridges, the 63 quart is the fridge to choose for those who go on long expeditions or travel with large groups. It's cavernous 63 quart capacity means that you can carry more food for those extended trips away from civilization. The footprint of the 63 Quart Freezer/Fridge is a bit larger than that of the smaller two models, but this is more than offset by its ability to carry significantly larger volumes of food.

ARB 63 quart Freezer/Fridge - $979.95 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>$35 X 19 = $665 33 quart ARB
$35 X 21 = $735 42 quart ARB
$35 X 28 = $980 63 quart ARB

I think I'll go the route you did.
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Damn, $35! I could get a couple dozen of those instead of one ARB

I thought you were being a wise a s s saying you could get 12 of mine for $35.00 wasnt sure about arb

This will hold 8 cans 6 liter capacity.Those ones you listed belong in a camper.

I want to leave it in all the time(stocked of course) It came in today but wifes got the h3 Ill mess with it on sunday.Might paint the white part black .
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fourfourto:
I guess the right socket is 30 amps because it also runs the cargo one.

Is there a way to tap into the dome light it has rundown protection after 20 minutes.Its better for the fridge than rap because rap goes of when you open and shut door if hooked up to dome circuit it would stay on for 20 minutes after leaving truck. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yes, all interior lights have rundown protection. (Which I'll add here for others, rundown protection and RAP are different.)
However, the draw of a the cooler might be too large for tapping into the dome light circuit, unless you wire in a relay. Just wire in the coil side of the relay to the dome lamp, and run a B+ line (could be one from the accessory plug) for the switched side, that would work and not overpower the dome fuse or more importantly the dome wiring.

Using your idea, it would not be hard to make the rear accessory plug (or one of the front ones) turn off after twenty minutes, just be adding in a simple relay somewhere in the rear panel.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Just wire in the coil side of the relay to the dome lamp </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Were is the dome light wire.
This is small fridge its also a warmer.

On fridge is listed Nominal current draw 3.6 amps fuse rating 10 amp.
How can I tell if dome circuit can handle the load?

Any aftermarket auto shutoff options?

I was thinking of putting a 12 volt socket under seat instead of hard wiring it.Rather tap right in but if I need a relay Ill put one in.I have one installed for my airhorn.

I could just plug it in but I dont like the looks and trouble with unpluging all the time.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fourfourto:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Just wire in the coil side of the relay to the dome lamp </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Were is the dome light wire. At the dome lamp.
I would tap into one of the orange wires going to the footwell courtesy lamps. Checking the wiring diagrams, and on the H3, the rundown protection is not controlled through a relay as in other vehicles (I keep forgetting the H3 is one of the vehicles using the newer style BCMs.)
The BCM actually supplies the power directly to the courtesy lamps versus power a relay as in other systems. This reinforces a relay should be used.
In this system, not only does the BCM supply the direct voltage for the lights, it also supplies the ground switch to turn each one on depending on switch input. Therefore, I highly suggest a low resistance relay. If you wired the cooler right into the circuit, the BCM might sense the extra current flow and pop a code, thinking there is a short to power in the lines.
So, I would recommend splicing off one of the green wires from either footwell courtesy lamp, attaching this to the coil side of the relay to power up the relay.
Then for the switch side of the relay, tap into one of the orange wires going to an accessory plug. (If it was me, right where I splice into the accessory wire, I would also install a 10 amp fuse, this is just a safety feature I like to do when tapping into wires. If a fuse is installed, install the fuse as close to its power supply as possible-in this case the orange wire at the accessory plug.)
Then run a wire from the relay to under the seat, and you can also get a ground under the seat too.

This is small fridge its also a warmer.

On fridge is listed Nominal current draw 3.6 amps fuse rating 10 amp.
How can I tell if dome circuit can handle the load?

Any aftermarket auto shutoff options?Yes, they do sell electronic timer relays.

I was thinking of putting a 12 volt socket under seat instead of hard wiring it.Rather tap right in but if I need a relay Ill put one in.I have one installed for my airhorn.

I could just plug it in but I dont like the looks and trouble with unpluging all the time. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Thanks f5fstop Im going to see about getting a timer relay first maybee the time could be longer like 1hr or 2 hrs.

I could make things easy by just hooking up to a rap ciruit than a relay wouldnt be needed.
I just want the fridge to shut off

I made a note like always of the wiring.its good to have reference for future projects.I sugest everyone do the same.Ill see if pep boys or auto zone has the timer im going there saturday for the 12 outlet for under the seat.Think ill need some velcro too.Maybee ill sit it in the truck tommorow and get some pics .
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by fourfourto:
Damn, $35! I could get a couple dozen of those instead of one ARB

I thought you were being a wise a s s saying you could get 12 of mine for $35.00 wasnt sure about arb </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I knew you must have mis-read what I typed.
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