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Old 03-22-2006, 10:29 PM
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<FONT class=headlineblack>Blood Spilled Over Man's Perfect Lawn</FONT>

<DIV class=body>BATAVIA, Ohio, March 21, 2006
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(CBS/AP)Irritated but calm, the homeowner called 911 and told the
dispatcher that he had finally done something about the neighbor boy — the one,
the man said into the phone, who had been harassing him for years.

"I
just killed a kid," Charles Martin said, according to a <A class=link
href="http://audio.cbsnews.com/2006/03/21/audio1425131.mp3" target=new>recording
of the Sunday afternoon call (audio)</A> released by police in Union Township,
near Batavia, about 20 miles east of Cincinnati.

"You just killed a
kid?" the surprised 911 operator said.

"Yes, ma'am," the caller replied.


Martin, 66, is charged with murdering 15-year-old Larry Mugrage, who
lived next door to the house where Martin kept a meticulous front lawn with
grass that he could sometimes be seen measuring to the inch.

Police said
crossing that lawn is what got Mugrage killed. Martin, who lived alone, told
officers he'd had several disputes with neighbors about walking on his grass,
but hadn't called police since 2003, Union Township police Lt. Scott Gaviglia
said.

"I'm being harassed by him and his parents for five years and
today I just blew it up," the caller says on the tape, before identifying
himself as "Charles Martin."

In the 911 call, Martin, a retired Ford
Motor Co. worker with no criminal record, allegedly told the dispatcher that
Mugrage had been "making the other kids harass me and my place, tearing things
up."

"I shot him with a (word deleted) .410 shotgun twice," the caller
told the dispatcher.

"You shot him with a shotgun? Where is he?" the
dispatcher asked.

"He's laying in his yard," the caller said.


Mugrage, who police said was hit in the chest, was pronounced dead at a
hospital.

Martin appeared briefly in Batavia Municipal Court on Monday.
A judge denied bond and set another hearing for Thursday.

Martin was
being held Tuesday at the Clermont County jail, where officials declined to give
him a message seeking comment and said he did not have an attorney of record.


The shooting stunned those in the residential neighborhood and students
at Glen Este High School, where Mugrage was a freshman. Grief counselors were at
the school Monday.

"I think there's a great deal of shock, for two
reasons: because of the age of the victim and just how this occurred, killed
over some grass," Gaviglia said.

Neighbors said Martin was quiet, often
sitting out in front of his one-story home with its neat lawn, well-trimmed
shrubbery and flag pole with U.S. and Navy flags flying. In his fenced backyard,
he had several birdhouses and a shed painted like a small red barn with white
trim.

Neighbor Joanne Ritchie, 46, said Mugrage was known as "a good
kid," and that she always considered Martin to be friendly.

"The older
gentleman was always riding his bike and tending to his yard," she said. "He
would wave at kids and adults. He always had the perfect yard and he worked in
it a lot."

Sean Fritts, 16, who also lived nearby, agreed that Martin's
lawn was his pride and joy.

"He was real protective over his yard and
mowed it a lot, and sometimes even measured the grass with a yardstick," Fritts
said.

Still, Fritts said he wasn't aware of any disputes involving
Martin.

"I never had any problems with him, and I don't know that anyone
else did," he said.
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Tragic!!

Back in my COP days I had a guy come after me with an ax handle because I was in his yard on his grass. I was in a scuffle with a drunk that refused to exit his vehicle. I pulled the drunk out of his car he wanted to fight so we wrestled on the grass. Got the drunk under control and "thought" the guy was trying to help me until he started screaming "your killing my grass!!!!!" and swinging the ax handle. He was quickly introduced to Mr. Smith and his brother Mr. Wesson. People are fricken nuts!
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Why do I feel like the 15 year old wasn't the angel the press is making him out to be?
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Why do I feel like the 15 year old wasn't the angel the press is making him out to be?

X2

They're only "Good", "Likeable", "His smile lit up the room", "Angel"

.....When they're dead.


When I die, they better not pull that crap during my funeral. I'll roll.
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Quote:
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Klaus:
Why do I feel like the 15 year old wasn't the angel the press is making him out to be?

X2

They're only "Good", "Likeable", "His smile lit up the room", "Angel"

.....When they're dead.


When I die, they better not pull that crap during my funeral. I'll roll. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I won't roll, I'll have to re-assimilate or something.


Since I'll be ashes.


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I've considered it. And mabye have myself sprinkled over Moab.
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I'd be willing to bet they kept pokeing at him and poking at him... there is only so much any human can take without snapping back.

I'm sorry the kid died, but I based on only this amount of info... I wouldn't put the old guy away. Maybe some communitee service at a local park or green space.

If you keep plucking the hairs out of a neighbors dog one at a time, you can't put the dog down when it bites you.
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I'm sure the kid wasn't an angel, but did he deserve to be shot? No.

I don't care how much sh*t those kids gave him, if he's unstable enough that he shot someone for walking on his grass, he deserves to at least spend some time in the rubber room, if not lockup.
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I'm sure the kid wasn't an angel, but did he deserve to be shot? No.

I don't care how much sh*t those kids gave him, if he's unstable enough that he shot someone for walking on his grass, he deserves to at least spend some time in the rubber room, if not lockup.

Mabye true.

But I think there are some people out there that just savour the fact they can get away with anything. Especially enraging seniors. Most likely the parents encouraged the kid.

I've heard of first time trespassers shot. This old guy probably endured day after day of snickering and grinning disrespect.

Or maybe he was just wacked.
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he should of shot him with a pellet gun .
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Sewie:
I'm sure the kid wasn't an angel, but did he deserve to be shot? No.

I don't care how much sh*t those kids gave him, if he's unstable enough that he shot someone for walking on his grass, he deserves to at least spend some time in the rubber room, if not lockup.

Mabye true.

But I think there are some people out there that just savour the fact they can get away with anything. Especially enraging seniors. Most likely the parents encouraged the kid.

I've heard of first time trespassers shot. This old guy probably endured day after day of snickering and grinning disrespect.

Or maybe he was just wacked. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well I'm sure we're not hearing the whole story. It just seems pretty tragic.

But I'll bet if he is set free, nobody will be walking on his lawn anymore.
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I'd have shot the little turd.
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My first thought was Dan and his neighbors...

We have neighbor kids like that. I'm not that defensive about my lawn, but when they trample my plants literally 3 hours after I spent the morning planting, I have gone back into the kitchen for a butcher knife.

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NOPE, paintball gun.
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Maybe the guy just forgot to switch shells from buckshot to rock salt?
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I honestly didn't know you could kill someone with a .410. It must have been point blank in the eye.
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The kid had just one problem and it's the same problem that all battered women are afflicted with.........he didn't know when to shut the f!ck up.....


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I'd have shot the little turd.

x2... hypothetically.
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They aired the 911 call somewhere. It was weird, he was matter of fact about it.

"AH yes, I just killed a kid." Weird.
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