Does anyone buy used ring and pinions?

[OrangeCrush]

I?ve only bought one set of used ring and pinions (a set of 5.38?s for my S10) and they whined. (previously setup incorrectly I suppose)

The reason I ask is because I want to swap out the 4.56?s out of my H2 and move up to something steeper (not sure how steep I can go... 5.38?s??)

I just (yesterday) received the 5.13?s for my wife?s Jeep I have to swap out and today my 4.56?s will be in for my Jeep.

By the time you buy the installation kit, gears and labor, I?ll have 1000-1200 per vehicle. I figured if I could sell my 4.56?s out of the H2, it would help offset the price of the new gears.

So, do people buy used gears or is that a no-no?

Thanks,

Mark

[HummerJim]

Richmond Gear in Liberty, SC buys used ring and pinions and refurbishes them. I have a basement with three rear end gears for my old '65 GTO that I used to drag race. Some of the boxes still say Richmond Gear on them. I've been away from it for 15 years, but the freight will be expensive because gear sets are heavy and as I remember they don't pay a lot unless they are rare gear sets or in high demand.

[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by HummerJim

Richmond Gear in Liberty, SC buys used ring and pinions and refurbishes them. I have a basement with three rear end gears for my old '65 GTO that I used to drag race. Some of the boxes still say Richmond Gear on them. I've been away from it for 15 years, but the freight will be expensive because gear sets are heavy and as I remember they don't pay a lot unless they are rare gear sets or in high demand.

Jim,

Thanks bud but I meant do people in general... not so much a company. I know a lot of guys on here have upgraded to 38" tires and could use a set of 4.56 gears.

Just didn't know if anyone buys used or always buys new.

Thanks,

Mark

[tyler1bo]

I actually could use a set of 4.56's..I plan on doing it anyway but I'm also curious if it's sketchy to buy a used set of ring and pinions :/

[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by tyler1bo

I actually could use a set of 4.56's..I plan on doing it anyway but I'm also curious if it's sketchy to buy a used set of ring and pinions :/

WTF, you calling me sketchy???




I've honestly only used one set of used ring and pinion and it howled. The problem I believe is it was howling in the rear end from the person I bought it from. I think if a ring and pinion is setup correctly, it should be fine.

I will make you this offer and there is a chance for it to go haywire on both of our parts.

If you decide to buy these gears, I'll make you an offer.

Install the gears, if for any reason they don't work, I'll give you your money back. The risk is for both of us because I could end up with nothing and you could waste your money on labor (assuming you are paying someone)

If you're interested, let me know.


Mark

[Humdingah]

Mark,

Why are you considering going to something as steep as a 5.38 with the diesel? I would think that with 40's and the diesel's torque a 4.56 or possibly a 4.88 would be plenty of gear.

I've talked to Travis about converting my truck, Nathan at MPI about a compound setup for it and Guy at SoCal diesel about a stroker and Stage 2 heads...they've all recommended going with a 4.88 with the 41.5" Pit Bulls I plan on running.

5.38 just seems like a LOT of gear.

[twr]

Hi Orangecrush or Mark is a stand up guy and would never rip someone off, if he says their good used gears their are. Also used gears are fine as long as they are set up correct when they were install. Make sure the installer knows what the FU-K he's doing. I have installed used gears in lots of trucks and cars that are still on the road for many years after the install.

[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by Humdingah

Mark,

Why are you considering going to something as steep as a 5.38 with the diesel? I would think that with 40's and the diesel's torque a 4.56 or possibly a 4.88 would be plenty of gear.

I've talked to Travis about converting my truck, Nathan at MPI about a compound setup for it and Guy at SoCal diesel about a stroker and Stage 2 heads...they've all recommended going with a 4.88 with the 41.5" Pit Bulls I plan on running.

5.38 just seems like a LOT of gear.

Actually the main reason is because since I put the 40?s on, I?ve lost about 3 mpg.

I remember on both of my H2?s, when I put 36?s on, I lost like 3 mpg and when I installed the 4.56?s, I got at least 2 mpg better mileage.

I just figured since I lost about 3 mpg with the tire increase, a steeper gear would bring back to where I was.

Stupid???

Originally Posted by twr

Hi Orangecrush or Mark is a stand up guy and would never rip someone off, if he says their good used gears their are. Also used gears are fine as long as they are set up correct when they were install. Make sure the installing knows what the FU-K he's doing. I have installed used gears in lots of trucks and cars that are still on the road for many years after the install.

Trace,

Thanks man, much appreciated but I don?t think Tyler was calling me sketchy, I was just mess in? with him. (seemed funnier in my head)


Mark

[tyler1bo]

Yes I was not calling Mark sketchy Mark I'll PM you to see what you'd want for them. And to add to the thread, I kinda thought myself that 5.38's would be too much. You have a ton of power going to the wheels anyways, I don't think I would go past 4.88-5:13 at the most. Just my two cents though!

[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by tyler1bo

Yes I was not calling Mark sketchy Mark I'll PM you to see what you'd want for them. And to add to the thread, I kinda thought myself that 5.38's would be too much. You have a ton of power going to the wheels anyways, I don't think I would go past 4.88-5:13 at the most. Just my two cents though!

I agree, 5.38?s would probably be a bit too much.... I?m thinking 5.13?s might be better... I hadn?t really given it that much thought yet.


PM responded to.


Mark

[twr]

Hi my mistake but when you have been on the forum awhile you stick up for guys that are all good. Also 513 are a hell of alot of gear with 700 to 900 FPT.

[tyler1bo]

haha. I understand man I'd do the same.

[twr]

Originally Posted by tyler1bo

haha. I understand man I'd do the same.

Thanks, i misunderstood

[tyler1bo]

No biggie!

[HUMTECH]

Tough thing about using a used gear set is it needs to have the same contact pattern(set up) as it was originally run. The further away you get from the original setup the more gear howl you could potentially get. Sometimes they work out, sometimes not

[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by HUMTECH

Tough thing about using a used gear set is it needs to have the same contact pattern(set up) as it was originally run. The further away you get from the original setup the more gear howl you could potentially get. Sometimes they work out, sometimes not

I agree, that's why I offered the money back deal. I still have to decide if it's worth the effort to go from 4.56's to 5.13's. It's not a "power" problem, I wouldn't mind getting back my lost mileage.


Mark

[guruerror]

Mark: Losing that 3mpg put you at what for your average?

[OrangeCrush]

Originally Posted by guruerror

Mark: Losing that 3mpg put you at what for your average?

I drove to Alabama this weekend from NC (roughly 500 miles) For "the most part", I had the cruise control set of 78-80 pulling an open car trailer with 4 people in the Hummer.

On the way back, I also had a 1200lb. UTV on the trailer.

I only averaged 12mpg running at those speeds. I'm also using the second to top tune (which actually gives me a couple of miles per gallon better results)

With the 37's (which actually measure 35 or 36" tall) with the top tune and no trailer, I was getting 17-18 with the cruise set on 82-84.

Lower tune, bigger tires and trailer and lower speed gave me less mpg.

Mark

[pwrhse2k]

Originally Posted by OrangeCrush

I drove to Alabama this weekend from NC (roughly 500 miles) For "the most part", I had the cruise control set of 78-80 pulling an open car trailer with 4 people in the Hummer.

On the way back, I also had a 1200lb. UTV on the trailer.

I only averaged 12mpg running at those speeds. I'm also using the second to top tune (which actually gives me a couple of miles per gallon better results)

With the 37's (which actually measure 35 or 36" tall) with the top tune and no trailer, I was getting 17-18 with the cruise set on 82-84.

Lower tune, bigger tires and trailer and lower speed gave me less mpg.

Mark

WTF you worried about mpgs for Money Mahoney!? LOL

[[__--MUD--__]]

Were putting 5.13's in my slut right now. I calculated it all out while back. 40/41" tires w/ those gears would be just a tad lower gear than a stock gear/tire setup. I have 38's right now, wanted room to grow. Should be pretty damn snappy w/ this setup.

if you want to run the numbers yourself, compare different options...this has pretty much everything you would ever need-
http://www.grimmjeeper.com/gears.html

FYI, alot of gears are physically machined by the same company. Some of the cheaper gear brands are loud just because they are not as refined or precision cut as they could be.