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Re: Where is all this hate coming from??

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Originally Posted by guruerror

Yeah...I agree, but the Tahoe-thing gets me every time. LOL. People that spout their assumptions as 'facts' just kills me. I'm compelled to administer calm correction...with a smile...every time.

I'd actually be interested to know the percentage of parts that an H2 and Tahoe actually have in common. I'm thinking maybe 15%...and that's probably mostly interior instrumentation and controls; climate control, head units, etc. Then I'd like to cross reference a Wrangler and a Liberty and see what you get...

...and really, so what if it WAS a Tahoe frame and mechanics? The Tahoe is still a six-lug, body-on-frame truck with locking diffs and a V8. I bet this sucker would follow a Jeep/Hummer just about anywhere:

Actually people got this idea because the rear 3rd of the H2 frame is a *highly modified* tahoe frame. The center is completely boxed and unique to Hummer, and the front 1/3rd is a modified 2500 series truck frame. So this automatically makes this a Tahoe in people's eyes. The Tahoe would fall apart way before the H2.

Re: Where is all this hate coming from??

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Originally Posted by glennf1

LOL...somebody's been on Wikipedia. LOL!

Re: Where is all this hate coming from??

I know Wikipedia says the fron 1/3 is from a 2500 series, but when I took the tour at the H2 AmGeneral plant, I was told the front 1/3 comes from a one ton or 3500 series truck. I think someone needs to correct Wikipedia on this. I was lucky to see the frames actually being modified at the plant on my visit in 2006 and they gave me my yellow Hummer hardhat to take home after the tour of the plant was over. If you were an H2 owner, they treated you like royalty on that tour.

Re: Where is all this hate coming from??

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Originally Posted by HummerJim

Interesting...it would be great to have that info from AM General to post on Wiki and include as a link/citation.

Re: Where is all this hate coming from??

Jim, Would love to see a picture of that hardhat. Tour would have been awesome to see.

Re: Where is all this hate coming from??

My uncle retired from AM General and still lives in Misawaka, Ind. He worked in the H1 and H2 assembly plants and provided the following information on H2 frames.
The main difference between the 3/4 and one ton frame is the thickness of the channel steel. The one ton is slightly thicker. In early 2005 GM had a difficult time providing 3/4 ton frames to AM General because of supply and demand by GM so they provided the one ton frame sections to AM General around March of 2005 through roughly Feb of 2007. So if your H2 was manufactured between those dates, your front frame is probably from a one ton and your frame weighs about 30 pounds more than the other year H2 frames. I also took the Hummer plant tour several times, twice with my uncle on a private tour, but they always made me give my hard hat back and towards the end of production they didn't even give people on the tour hard hats.

Re: Where is all this hate coming from??

I gotta say, 99.9% of the reactions and comments I have gotten on my lifted H2 have been positive. This thing gets positive attention like nothing I have ever owned. Of course I get the hows the gaxs mileage thing all the time, but not in a "youre killing the environment" kind of way.