I told you!! Something MUST be done

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by 0313H3

True, but it was Muslim, and now it is not. That is unacceptable according to the teachings of Islam. That is why the ongoing mess has dragged on for decades and will continue until it is reclaimed.

Osama has stated that America was targeted because non Islamic military forces are standing on Muslim ground. He was originally referring to our presence in Saudi Arabia. His motivation is further supported now.

Some Americans don't believe we are fighting "Al Qaeda" in Iraq. Even though the most targeted man there was the head of "Al Qaeda in Iraq" before we killed him.

The Iranians are also behind much of the Sunni - Shiite fighting within the population. While at the same time they are actively trying to develop nuclear weapons. Our newly elected Democrats are already discussing their exit strategies from the region. Only fools would consider this course of action with the information they have available to them. Our media isn't reporting what's real, but our intelligence agencies are.

Most Americans, thanks to the liberals and the liberal media, do not understand what would most likely happen if the US military pulled out and left Iraq in the condition it is in at this time. Iran would basically take over, via the Shiite movement of the Mahdi Army headed by Muqtada al-Sadr. They would hunt down and destroy the Sunni militants; meanwhile the non-Sunni militants would head to neighboring countries like Jordon, Syria, Turkey or even the Kurdish area of Iraq.

The Liberal press has done a great job of skipping over the threat from Iran, just like they did with the Hezbolah being supported by Iran.

However, now this has hit the papers, but will it wake people up?

Report: U.S. Forces Net 4 Top Iranian Officials After Series of Raids in Iraq

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,238719,00.html

[KenP]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

However, now this has hit the papers, but will it wake people up?

Report: U.S. Forces Net 4 Top Iranian Officials After Series of Raids in Iraq

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,238719,00.html

Nope.

[RuggedH2]

The topic of doing something about all this (being infiltrated and overpowered by our enemies from within) is engaging.

I think first we have to be aware of who the enemy is. We have all been lead to believe that "radical Islam" is different than Islam. This is not the complete truth. Where the clerics rule, is where the most trouble with this religion is found, Iran and previously Afghanistan, (and al Sadar in Iraq). Bin Laden has not been found, even with a $25,000,000.00 dollar reward out for him. Common Muslims believe much of what he preaches. He is not the planner of militant operations for Al Qaeda, but more of the spiritual visionary for them.

Israel is an example, there is no negotiations with Islam. It can be only be one way and the doctrine states that Islam must eventually rule the world. The faithful are faithful in ways we as westerners do not understand. They will not be "bought" (or convinced) with the promise of a better life in America. We are the great Satan.

If you truly believed with all you are, and thought that god called you to kill infidels through Jihad, would you do it? They do, in massive numbers. They have read this and been taught about Jihad from youth. They believe, in spite of all they have seen and learned. Mohammed Atta was college educated, learned to fly, and was capable of flying a commercial jet liner. He lived in America for months, went to bars (and strip clubs) and assimilated into our culture. All with the purpose of killing himself in the process of inflicting damage to his enemy. This enemy of ours is committed and serious.

Many in our culture don't believe this threat is real anymore. They don't think some backward society with all kinds of religious ties is really capable of affecting our massive influence, economy and power in the world. This enemy is more committed and skilled than many of our people realize. Their real strength is the commitment of the believers.

Look what happened in just one day in September, not that long ago. How did our economy, power and influence fare in the ensuing days and months? Look how soon we forget and drop our guard. Why were so many in favor of going into Iraq, while so few admit it now?

There are too many realities that must be denied for our government to just cut and run from the middle east.

Sorry for the long post, I'd like to blame Ken.

[KenP]

Originally Posted by 0313H3

Sorry for the long post, I'd like to blame Ken.

Oh man... I hate it when that happens.

That's why I said France and England are toast. They're being taken over from within and don't really see it happening. They belive it's no problem because the Muslim population is so small, but fail to see the huge numbers of children these families are having. Their growth will be exponential in the coming years and the clerics influence will rise in power.

We need to stop it now in this country. No question about it, but it won't happen because the liberals won't let it happen.

I do fear for our country over the next couple of years and I'm concerned about the outcome of the next election. Sure Bush has his faults, but he's looking out for us as best he can.

How the hell did thost idiots in MN elect Ellison?

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by KenP

How the hell did thost idiots in MI elect Ellison?

MN, not MI.

[KenP]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

MN, not MI.

Damn! Sorry and fizzled.

[RuggedH2]

Wasn't it the "rocket scientists" in MN that elected Jesse Ventura?

[KenP]

Originally Posted by 0313H3

Wasn't it the "rocket scientists" in MN that elected Jesse Ventura?

[ssgharkness020147]

Ha ha.

Originally Posted by 0313H3

Wasn't it the "rocket scientists" in MN that elected Jesse Ventura?