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Old 01-20-2007, 01:38 AM
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Default Dude....Are The Hi Beams On.?? Or do I Need An Eye Exam.??

I did a search but not to much info on the below.

I was out last night on the back roads headen for a friends house. I was cruzen at about 50 MPH. It was dark out and kind of misty and there were no street lights. I notieced that when I put the High Beams on ... that they were not that good. The really didn't project that far and weren't that bright.

Now this doesn't mean I traden in my rig or I'm gonna flame The HUMMER boys at the plant..it's just my way of saying ..WTF..?? Is there a fix or an up grade that I can install.

Didn't see anything in the search..

Short of adding roof lamps ..whats available aftermarket to add to the lighting system.

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Old 01-20-2007, 02:07 AM
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i thought the same thing
then i installed Sylvania Silverstar
it a brighter and whiter light
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:20 AM
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i thought the same thing
then i installed Sylvania Silverstar
it a brighter and whiter light

Was there a big diff ..in brightness..??
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i thought the same thing
then i installed Sylvania Silverstar
it a brighter and whiter light
Silverstars are great. But check out the new Ultras!
http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProd...ce/Silverstar/
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Old 01-20-2007, 11:43 AM
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Here is what I found, hope it helps:

Silverstar info..Silverstar fogs are #9145st...Sylvania headlights are #H13ST

The vehicle has a visual optical headlamp aiming system. The aim has been preset at the factory and should need no further adjustment.

However, if the vehicle is damaged in an accident, the headlamp aim may be affected and adjustment may be necessary.

If oncoming vehicles flash their high beams at you, this may also mean the vertical aim needs to be adjusted.

The vehicle should be properly prepared as follows:

? The vehicle should be placed so the headlamps are 25 ft. (7.6 m) from a light colored wall or other flat surface.

? The vehicle must have all four tires on a level surface which is level all the way to the wall or other flat surface.

? The vehicle should be placed so it is perpendicular to the wall or other flat surface.

? The vehicle should not have any snow, ice, or mud on it.

? The vehicle should be fully assembled and all other work stopped while headlamp aiming is being performed.

? The vehicle should be normally loaded with a full tank of fuel and one person or 160 lbs (75 kg) sitting on the driver's seat.

? Tires should be properly inflated.

? The spare tire is in its original location in the vehicle.

To adjust the vertical aim, perform the following procedure:
Find the aim dot on the lens of the headlamp.
Measure the distance from the ground to the aim dot on the headlamp. Record the distance.
At the wall or other flat surface, measure from the ground upward the recorded distance from Step 2 and mark it.
Draw or tape a horizontal line the width of the vehicle at the wall or other flat surface where it was marked it Step 4.
Notice: Do not cover a headlamp to improve beam cut-off when aiming. Covering a headlamp may cause excessive heat build-up which may cause damage to the headlamp.

Turn on the headlamps and place a piece of cardboard or equivalent in front of the headlamp not being aimed. This should allow only the beam of light from the headlamp being aimed to be seen on the flat surface.

Locate the vertical headlamp aiming screws, which are under the hood near each headlamp assembly. The adjustment screw can be turned with an E8 Torx? socket or T15 Torx? screwdriver.
Turn the vertical aiming screw until the headlamp beam is aimed to the horizontal tape line. If you turn it clockwise, it will raise the beam and if you turn it counterclockwise, it will lower the beam.
Repeat steps 6 and 7 for the opposite headlamp.

and...

There's a gap behind the bumper directly under the fog lights that's just big enough to reach into.

1. Reach into the gap, twist the fog lamp to disengage it from the housing, and pull lamp out of reflector.
2. Gently pull the lamp toward the bottom of the bumper so you can use two hands. The harness is barely long enough to reach.
3. Pull the harness's retaining clip away from the lamp base and unplug lamp from connector.
4. To install new lamp, plug it into the harness, look through the lens to line up the mounting slots and twist firmly into place.
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Love it when a rookie copies another members post.....
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ght=headlights

Now, there is nothing wrong with the highbeams, they pass ALL federal required tests.
I thought my highbeams sucked, and after installing silverstars, I thought they still sucked. But have someone you know drive in front of you and then turn them on, and find out what they think.
In addition, find a very dark road, with street signs and stop and check the difference is how far the beam goes in high versus low. I was surprised when I tried this, the highs go a lot further than I believed they would.
But I do agree that silverstars are a good improvement.

I believe rebel is right when he implies the fog lamps turning off in high beam causes a sudden drop of a light directly in front, and the high beams, on a high sitting vehicle go straight out. However, the fog lamp fix from the rebel, is for an H2, H3's do not use the lower lights for DRLs, they use either the signals or the headlamps.

It is possible to keep the fogs on with high beams as well as low beams; just remember the H3 is wired a bit differently than the H2.
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It's called "old age"
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Love it when a rookie copies another members post.....
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ght=headlights

Now, there is nothing wrong with the highbeams, they pass ALL federal required tests.
I thought my highbeams sucked, and after installing silverstars, I thought they still sucked. But have someone you know drive in front of you and then turn them on, and find out what they think.
In addition, find a very dark road, with street signs and stop and check the difference is how far the beam goes in high versus low. I was surprised when I tried this, the highs go a lot further than I believed they would.
But I do agree that silverstars are a good improvement.

I believe rebel is right when he implies the fog lamps turning off in high beam causes a sudden drop of a light directly in front, and the high beams, on a high sitting vehicle go straight out. However, the fog lamp fix from the rebel, is for an H2, H3's do not use the lower lights for DRLs, they use either the signals or the headlamps.

It is possible to keep the fogs on with high beams as well as low beams; just remember the H3 is wired a bit differently than the H2.

As stated ..I was out on the back roads in Joisey farm country and it was dark... I did use the stop signs ahead in the distance to gauge the stock headlamps...Not very impressive.


I am not unhappy with the distance that they travel when in the HB Mode...It's that the light is at a low level and it's hard to see compared to my other rides. I'm not concerened with the fog lamps lighting the front area as they drop out when the HB's are on..my concern is long distance. Comparing it to my 65 Vette with dual headlamp system and my 73 Thinderchicken. Both have much better long distance brightness then the H3.

I tried 3 Different auto parts outlets for Sylvaina's new SilverStar "ULTRA .."PepGirls"...."Auto Zoned Out" ...and Advanced Hold on the phone auto parts".. Neither of them have the new Ultra in stock.

So WTF good is it if you can't even get it. They all tried to sell me the standard Silver star...F-em.

Guess I'll wait till there available and give them a try........
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Old 01-20-2007, 07:28 PM
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simply put high beams are supposed to allow you to see further down a dark or dimly lit road. at least that's been my experience in driving all types of vehicles for many years. the 2007 h3's don't do what they are supposed to do, whether they passed federal requirements or not. if they require BRIGHTER bulbs to replace the ones now equipped then it's up to my dealer to cover the cost. right now i can see further with my regular headlights than my brights; thus in my opinion the brights are defective and need either adjustment or replacement. i was shocked the first time i hit the stalk and i couldnt see s--t. and traffic coming toward me wasn't blinking because they werent being blinded. the brights suck. i have almost 300 miles on my 07. thus far the brights are my only complaint. i'll see what the dealer says when i email them.


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Love it when a rookie copies another members post.....
http://www.elcovaforums.com/forums/s...ght=headlights

Now, there is nothing wrong with the highbeams, they pass ALL federal required tests.
I thought my highbeams sucked, and after installing silverstars, I thought they still sucked. But have someone you know drive in front of you and then turn them on, and find out what they think.
In addition, find a very dark road, with street signs and stop and check the difference is how far the beam goes in high versus low. I was surprised when I tried this, the highs go a lot further than I believed they would.
But I do agree that silverstars are a good improvement.

I believe rebel is right when he implies the fog lamps turning off in high beam causes a sudden drop of a light directly in front, and the high beams, on a high sitting vehicle go straight out. However, the fog lamp fix from the rebel, is for an H2, H3's do not use the lower lights for DRLs, they use either the signals or the headlamps.

It is possible to keep the fogs on with high beams as well as low beams; just remember the H3 is wired a bit differently than the H2.
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Turn the vertical aiming screw until the headlamp beam is aimed to the horizontal tape line. If you turn it clockwise, it will raise the beam and if you turn it counterclockwise, it will lower the beam.


Hmmmm, this must be wrong, or I'm just stoopid.

I just tried this now, but when I turned the screw CounterClockwise, it actually raised the beam. When I turned the screw clockwise, it lowered it.

What's going on?

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im thinkin its because of the rake
which makes the headlights point to low and wont show the distance needed for high beams
i might be only the ones w/ the towing package w/ the stiffer springs

just a thought

mine has the towing package and i thought the high beams were not that gr8 ... i did install the Silverstars and they did help
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I did a search but not to much info on the below.

I was out last night on the back roads headen for a friends house. I was cruzen at about 50 MPH. It was dark out and kind of misty and there were no street lights. I notieced that when I put the High Beams on ... that they were not that good. The really didn't project that far and weren't that bright.

Now this doesn't mean I traden in my rig or I'm gonna flame The HUMMER boys at the plant..it's just my way of saying ..WTF..?? Is there a fix or an up grade that I can install.

Didn't see anything in the search..

Short of adding roof lamps ..whats available aftermarket to add to the lighting system.

Get-ER-Done...

i agree. brights are weird. i've never encountered anything like this. my initial feeling was they were not set properly. they are definitely not bright. seem to make a dull wide arc ABOVE the road. i am about to hut 300 miles on my 07 lux and will take it in to the dealer when i get a chance.
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Old 01-20-2007, 03:25 AM
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i agree. brights are weird. i've never encountered anything like this. my initial feeling was they were not set properly. they are definitely not bright. seem to make a dull wide arc ABOVE the road. i am about to hut 300 miles on my 07 lux and will take it in to the dealer when i get a chance.

Yeah...well at least I'm not the only one who noticed it. I just turned 560 miles on mine...Now it's pedal to the medal..5 Year 100K...What me worry??

I'll check out those silver stars..
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Yeah...well at least I'm not the only one who noticed it. I just turned 560 miles on mine...Now it's pedal to the medal..5 Year 100K...What me worry??

I'll check out those silver stars..

much brighter, check ebay for the deal!
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much brighter, check ebay for the deal!

Better pricing then The Pep Girls Stores Or Retreat Auto Parts stores..??
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Better pricing then The Pep Girls Stores Or Retreat Auto Parts stores..??

yeah like half price or less, no tax, usually cheap shipping....just check and see and be patient.
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You guys need to do the driving light jumper wire trick. It keeps driving lights on with low and hi beams and fills in the dark spot in front of truck. Then I changed headlights for NOKYA 9007 Bulbs which are 110 watt and 7000 K as opposed to original 70 watt 4000 K. I did driving lights as well to PIAA XTREME White 3157. Headlamps are ARTIC WHITE. Anyway biggest improvement is from jumper wire trick. 5 minute job for jump wire trick in under hood fuse box. It has been on the forum a couple times in last month. Regards lennyrebel
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You guys need to do the driving light jumper wire trick. It keeps driving lights on with low and hi beams and fills in the dark spot in front of truck. Then I changed headlights for NOKYA 9007 Bulbs which are 110 watt and 7000 K as opposed to original 70 watt 4000 K. I did driving lights as well to PIAA XTREME White 3157. Headlamps are ARTIC WHITE. Anyway biggest improvement is from jumper wire trick. 5 minute job for jump wire trick in under hood fuse box. It has been on the forum a couple times in last month. Regards lennyrebel

i did a search and couldn't find the fix to which you refer?????? could you tell us how to do it. i have an '07. tia!
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Yeah...well at least I'm not the only one who noticed it. I just turned 560 miles on mine...Now it's pedal to the medal..5 Year 100K...What me worry??

I'll check out those silver stars..

it's something the dealer should deal with under warranty. brights should be bright. its a safety issue. probably just needs an adjustment. the regular lights and driving lights are brighter han the brights at night.
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it's something the dealer should deal with under warranty. brights should be bright. its a safety issue. probably just needs an adjustment. the regular lights and driving lights are brighter han the brights at night.

They are aimed correctly that's not the problem. When you have the lower fog lighs on and hit the brights ....the fog lamps go off. They do cover the road nicely but just don't seem bright enough.
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