How about this load of B.S......

[Dan]

Politicians suck I tell you. Look at what they're proposing in my state now:

http://hartfordadvocate.com/gbase/Ne...?oid=oid:33683

Now I'm mad!

- Dan

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SJ

What you stand for --- you can ditto for me

Like I say to the "ProChoice" people "Does the baby have a choice?" to me it either pro-abortion or anti-abortion - call it like it is.

"It's what you learn, after you know it all, that counts - John Wooden

[argonaut]

Actually Ticket2ride, I feel pretty similar to you. Freedom is key. Everybody that is a citizen should have the right to choose what they want as long as it doesn't interfere with another person's rights. But what makes America so great is that we can have discussions like this and voice our opinions on how we feel and not be persecuted for them. Yeah we will have jabbing and arguments, but it is because we can do these things that our country is so great.

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[argonaut]

Tucson, I personally believ that once that baby can exist on its own without the motgher then it is a seperate being (ask some Jewish mothers and that would mean the kid would have to be 35 and married...lol) But I've never had to deal with an abortion and hopefully never will. A fun fact: I was adopted as a newborn from a 13 yr old mother... go figure... and I am still pro choice... odd.

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[RasterMaster]

Well said SJ! I totally agree with your statements.

Check out the OkC Chapter Page!

argonaut

This forum and the world is a better place because the courage of your birth mother - you are a credit to the world

"It's what you learn, after you know it all, that counts - John Wooden

[Kevin B]

WHEW,

Thank you S.J and Dan AJC,

It seems all is not lost in America, and Im not the only one listening to the Savage Nation. Oh if only people knew of what they spoke! Alot of eye's would be opened in this country regarding where our laws came from if only people would READ THE BIBLE. I get so anoyed with the people who say this country WAS not founded by Christians and set up God's laws old and new testament.

Say what you want and believe what you want but don't argue facts. And for those of you who think im wrong please do some reading in the book of Leviticus. Someone understood sickness and disease and how to avoid it long ago. Courts and wittnesses were established, Governing bodies, Laws of morality and so much more. Do you know why it is illegal to kill birds of prey? That's in there too.

Right and wrong are not a gray area to me.

N2ITNSD

Amen - Good and Bad is not gray either

"It's what you learn, after you know it all, that counts - John Wooden

[argonaut]

You also are not supposed to eat pork, but that never made it into American law...

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[Kevin B]

I wonder if the pork thing had anything to do with trichinosis??? Not much of that going on anymore in this country. I think pork is safe these days.

[DRTYFN]

That's right- interpret it the way that suits your needs best. Looking for answers from a book of fables that's centuries old that's been reinterpreted over & over & over & over isn't the way I choose to go through life. Sorry, but imo organized religion is the manipulation of humanity's inherent nature to be superstitious and fearful of the unknown. It's basically just a way to control the masses.

[Kevin B]

DRTY,

It's funny, but when they found the dead sea scroll's it kinda pointed to the accurcy of the fables being reinterpreted over& over& over. At least they got those silly stories right from one century or millenium to another.

Anyway I doubt either of us will change the other's mind, but I don't mind being the "little dog in the car yapping his brains out" as long as we keep it factual.

[argonaut]

Religion is the ultimate control for the masses. What original message religions start out with, good and truthful or not, it is inevitably corrupted by the religion eventually in order to control the masses. Just look at the history of the catholic church. WTF happened in the middle ages....?

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[Kevin B]

Can't argue with that argonaut

[DRTYFN]

Written word that's been retold over and over again? What do you think about Scientology? It was recently written and the author is known. He even said that he was going to make up a religion. Look at all of the people that have flocked to it. How do you know that your religion wasn't made up in a similiar fashion? Oh yeah, because it's the bible. I forgot, the bible is different. When you see a representation of jesus he's usually looking like a blue-eyed surfer. But in reality the people in that region at that time had broad flat noses, brown skin & dark curly afro type hair. That's a documented fact. But that doesn't go with what your religion has brainwashed you with, does it? The churches were clever enough to know that they needed to make their icon something palatable to the masses.
If your religion has changed the look of your savior to make him more attractive to you what else do you think they've changed? Why do you think the church refers to all of you as sheep or his flock? Because that's what you are- empty-headed sheep that follow blindly without thinking.

[DennisAJC]

DRTYFN,

I like you, so I'm gonna....

PRAY FER YER SOUL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't mix religion with friends.
(But I know you'll burn in hell )

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
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[DRTYFN]

Like I've always said- If it works for you, great. Just don't push it on me or condemn me for not believing.

And Dennis, I told you that if I'm gonna go at least I'll rack up some upgrade points while I'm at it.

[Brad]

The bottom line is, Where is your soul going when you die?

Your 60, 70 or 80 years of life on earth is a short time compared to eternity.

Christians are not perfect just forgiven!!

[SUTJim]

DRTY,

Practice what you preach. You always belittle people for believing in the Bible. You always bring up corrupt religions that have miss-interpreted the Bible (At least you admit it is a miss-interpretation! You don't actually say this, but you imply it.

I'm not going to put you down because you don't believe. So practice what you preach and quit preaching to us about religions.

BTW, your part of a flock too. It's just that your sheppard is leading you to a cliff and you don't even see it coming.

Current Chevy Avalanche owner,
future H2 SUT owner

[DRTYFN]

Jim,
You just keep on believing in what makes the night less scary for you.
I always love how religious nuts have to tell those that don't choose to believe in their mumbo-jumbo that they're on the way to a hot place. What a load of crap.
You pray to a vengeful and jealous god. That's in the bible and it comes from "god" himself. Doesn't that sound like someone trying to scare someone and keep them under control? Why do you have free will?
And didn't christ die for everybody? Does god forgive everybody or just christians? Does that make all of the other religions wrong?

Besides, look what's waiting for me(supposedly).