Slopes - Off Road

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Manny:
It is nothing like telling a pilot not to rely on his gauges; apparently you had trouble understanding my post. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Apparently you have trouble understanding what you write.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Manny:
I didn't say don't use them, I said don't rely on them to determine what is safe and what is not. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>So, saying that a "A gauge will not help you" is not likened to saying don't use them? Also, you didn't qualify your comment as you now would like us to think you did, you simply said:<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Manny:
You should not rely on gauges while performing steep ascents, descents, or sideslopes. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Manny:
FWIW, most clinometer/inclinometers designed for 4x4 use are useless in a Hummer H1 because they get pinned well before the actual point of rollover threat. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Since you are the off-road editor for a supposed Hummer magazine, don't you at least feel you have an inherent responsibility to have the facts straight before you spout your obvious ignorance. Please provide us with where the Hummer H1 has the ability to traverse an off-camber situation that is well past 45 degrees (according to your comment). You are obviously telling us that since Hummer provides that the H1 has a safe off-camber ability of 22 degrees, that H1s can actually easily double that number without fear of rollover.

This is all relatively common sense and simple. A gauge will allow you to assess the situation at which you are at and help determine if it is safe to continue on the same line. You talk as if you have no experience on the trail what-so-ever. You don't magically appear on an off-camber line that approaches the roll-over point. You have to drive the vehicle to that situation and at some point you were at zero degrees and every point in between. If you know that a safe situation to be in is on a 30 degree side slope then as you are driving a line, you "gauge" where you are on the scale from 0 to 30 degrees and drive accordingly. Being complacent about the camber your vehicle is at is what results in accidents. As I asked before, how is having more information available a bad thing?