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09-25-2003, 12:46 AM
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I just thought it might spawn some other ideas
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09-25-2003, 01:21 AM
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Rogue
Is that bracket strong enough to hold a 9000# pull?
Does warn O.K. rope with that winch? Last I heard they didn't speck those for rope due to possable heat issues
It is cool that you can open the hood with the winch installed  . What were they thinking
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09-25-2003, 12:35 PM
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More Info please! I have been wanting to install a winch. I don't want to give up the approach angle.
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10-21-2003, 01:09 AM
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What is a load cell? What type of company would have one of these? I am in Minnesota so Cali is a little too far to go to use the load cell you know about.
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10-21-2003, 02:26 PM
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Very scary, especialy if a snatch block was to be used.
Maybe you guys would find this tech doc on recovery helpful. It covers the do's and don'ts and just might save someone from a serious injury or death.
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09-25-2003, 03:20 AM
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Cool! Where'd you get it? Does it rate 9000lbs minimum? How does it fold down? And most importantly, WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR GRILL DONE? Ooops, sorry. What kind of paint/coating is on the grill? very cool. Just what I need.
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10-29-2003, 02:53 AM
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The only time I ever used my winch was to pull a lifted wrangler that got high centered on a rock crawl course. It was funny. Damn jeeps. I have never gotten stuck, as hard as I have tried... Maybe this winter i will get stuck in a mud pit. that would be fun.
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09-25-2003, 07:00 PM
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Rogue,
Who is this manufactured by? A "test" showing no deflection in any position up to 30,000 lbs, that doesnt sound right. That looks like the stock Warn cradle but the verticle piece going from the reciever to the cradle looks to be 7/16 to 1/2 inch thick(max) and less than 3" wide
Im not trying to be a jerk but I can't believe that.
Are you sure your not the one making these and trying to sell them?
I would love to see some tech. data on these because I don't see how that mount could be that strong.(Im so close to calling Bull Crap)
BTW Nice jeep in the background(driveway). Done any mods on that?? Dont tell me you own a Jeep and a Hummer. That I CAN'T believe 
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10-21-2003, 05:04 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by crash:
hmm, interesting. I think one thang that really hinders the H2, the way the hood opens. Now, if you were to be able to build a bumper, and sink the winch down and back, closer to the frame rails that would be the hot ticket. I have done quite some experimentaion with this on the toys with good results. But its not an easy task...
certified H2 tech.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I'm having my MileMarker 10.5 Hydraulic put into the basket on the front of this bumper this week.
I'll post photo's after the install.
My approach angle is still great.
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10-21-2003, 01:50 AM
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Crap.. pure.. Crap..
I wouldn't let you use that winch mount with in 100yards of me or my family. Please, for your sake do not ever use that mount and stick with Warns orginal mounting system. The life you save could be yours.
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09-25-2003, 10:48 PM
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Good job!  I Didn't even think about lowering it into the "straight out position" for a straight pull.
I love to play at fabracation myself, when I got my "multi mount" cradle I put some gussetts on the side and ran a few passes over the factory welds.
I am still concerned how it will perform in a side pull situation. I applaud your creativity and good luck with your mount. I have access to a very accurate load cell if you ever want to test it 
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09-25-2003, 10:18 AM
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The rope is a product called technora, low weight and almost no stretch. Tensile strength 18,000lbs it has a heat resistance of 400f. I believe Warn is testing this product for use. I had to buy a 600' roll and have 350'feet left. I can splice a hook and ship if interested. The bracket is rated at 10,000lbs in any position and in tests show no deflection in any position up to 30,000lbs.
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09-25-2003, 12:46 AM
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I just thought it might spawn some other ideas
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10-27-2003, 01:53 AM
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hey rogue that is cool. where did you get the adjustable mount?
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09-25-2003, 12:48 AM
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09-25-2003, 10:16 PM
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I made the bracket to solve a personal need on my personal vehicle. I saw the approach angle problem as soon as I installed the Warn multi-mount system. I cut the receiver tube from the Warn mount and custom fit it to an adjustable hitch system. The hitch system is factory rated to 10,000lbs and a call to their tech support during my design research revealed that they have unofficially tested these hitches to 30,000lbs without deflection. (his words not mine.) I do not manufacture this mount, but it looks like maybe I should. The mount is adjustable 8" up and down. The full up position would generate a lot of rotational stress on the hummer receiver mount that it probably wasn't designed for. If I need more than a moderate pull to get unstuck I will lower it to the latteral position. Yes that is my Jeep in the driveway.
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10-29-2003, 02:26 AM
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rogue... i would love to copy your design... where did you get the mount?
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10-29-2003, 12:20 AM
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i have used my winch more 'around the house' then offroad. I was pulling down some trees and completely bogged down the winch on two different pulls...made me wish I had my snatch block handy..(i do now) while a bit more powerful of winch would be nice, for my case, I would start pulling the vehicle...witch brings up question... when winching someone out or something down/away, have the car in park, with parking brake on... bad thing to have the h2 start dragging.... can anything get damaged..
I like that bracket... but would be afraid to use it....it is one thing to snap a line under a hard pull and having a line fly through the air, but imagine a 85 lb object....scary.. una
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10-21-2003, 05:12 PM
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Now THAT'S a mans bumper!!!!
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10-28-2003, 10:24 PM
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I thought this subject died.
I would not pull with the winch in the upper position. Lowered to the lowest setting prior to pulling, it lines it up with the receiver. I am surprised you engineer friend missed the obvious rotational stress pulling from the raised position would pose on the H2's receiver mount. Since only I know the material, it’s thickness or the weld quality, it would be hard for anyone to comment on it's strength. Please correct me if I am wrong, but the winch is only capable of generating 9500 lbs of pull at the drum with or without a block installed inline. As for storing it in the back, I thought it would be easier to lower into position than try to unload and install when stuck in who knows what. How many of you have to remove your winch to check your oil? Again I didn’t build this to sell. I built it to solve a problem I had with my vehicle. I will use it with confidence if and when I need it.
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Thanks
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