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Old 05-17-2006, 08:01 PM
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Note: NO sarcasm in this post whatsoever - Just real questions.

Scenario - thug with a gun 6' away pointing between my eyes. If I have a gun in my pocket I should try to pull it?

I would think my chances would be better if I cooperated. Atleast until I felt I had an oppourtunity to pull when and IF the situation allowed it.

For me it would depend on what he wanted. If he wanted my wallet, he can have it. I would never take someones life to protect my property.

On the other hand if I thought he simply wanted me dead or had mental issues I would likely take my chances and draw. It all depends on the situation.

MarineHawks scenario of putting my hand in my pocket when I feel something is out of place is a good point. I can't tell you how many times I would have loved to be able to do that.

I think it's a good idea if I get into some kind of class that addresses these issues and I will. Can't say I have time to practice with the thing every month but I'll certainly spend as much time as possible learning to use it proficiently. Would be fun anyway.

Pepper spray and Tazers have uses, they are great in a fist fight but I wouldn't want to use either in a gun fight.

BTW - I bet I would get fairly good at close quarters snap shooting really quick. I've played paintball almost all of my adult life at a tournament level. I know a firearm is different but in many ways it is very similar. Reaction time is reaction time.
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Scenario - thug with a gun 6' away pointing between my eyes. If I have a gun in my pocket I should try to pull it?

Stand there motionless except for pulling the gun? No.

Move quckly out of his line as you pull the gun and fire while moving laterally? Yes.

It's unlikely he's going to have the immediate reaction to shoot before the 1/20th of a second elapses and your head leaves his sight line. Even then, he probably won't be able to keep his aim on you and also be able to realize that you are deploying a weapon. A million thoughts are going through his head. "What should I do? Is he running away? should I let him go? Is he a threat? Does he have enough money in his wallet to risk a murder charge?" Only two are going through yours. Move and fire; move and fire. IMO opinino your chances of surviving if you act effectively are greater than they are at correctly guessing whether or not he just wants your wallet or your life as well.

Modify the scenario a bit though. What if you're with your wife/sister/son/mother/girlfriend/etc. ? Going to "cooperate" then? Leave a violent criminal with total control over a loved one?

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What do you guys think of this place?

http://www.frontsight.com/index.asp
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What do you guys think of this place?

http://www.frontsight.com/index.asp

Not sure. sounds good. Maybe expensive. This place is good and you get paid to train: http://www.mcrdsd.usmc.mil/RTR/trainingDS.htm
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Not sure. sounds good. Maybe expensive. This place is good and you get paid to train: http://www.mcrdsd.usmc.mil/RTR/trainingDS.htm
Umm...... that would be a ghey place to get training.

This would be a better choice. http://www.mcrdpi.usmc.mil/index.htm
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Front Sight are well known and respected for their training.
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I'd go a step further, say something like "I've got loads of money in my car, let me get it", or I've got a pile of money, here have it", something to catch their attention and focus on for a second or two, enough to disorient them long enough to put them down.

You'd be better off carrying a baseball and throwing it, then yelling crack!

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