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05-23-2006, 11:09 PM
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Re: Student Faces Criminal Charges For Teacher Jokes
Yeah, I think he had a cartoon of Fallwell getting teh buttsecks and Fallwell sued for defamation. That case was not an obscenity case, but rather a case of satire vs. defamation. Fallwell lost. Also, all of you out there sure better monitor your kids postings and use of myspace. Bad things go on there, and bad people (pervs) hang out there. Spoken as the father of a 16 y/o girl and 14 y/o boy, not as a perv. I really don't think the teacher has a case, though. It sounds like satire or some such. Not cool tho. 
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05-23-2006, 11:38 PM
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Re: Student Faces Criminal Charges For Teacher Jokes
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Yeah, I think he had a cartoon of Fallwell getting teh buttsecks and Fallwell sued for defamation. That case was not an obscenity case, but rather a case of satire vs. defamation. Fallwell lost.
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Falwell actually won the lawsuit in two lower courts before it reached the Supreme Court.
And the reason Flynt finally won was because the cartoon was so absurd that a reasonable person would never believe it. The cartoon said that he lost his virginity to his mother while drunk in an outhouse.  There was also the fact that Falwell was a public figure.
While the teacher may not have a case, I think its important that the student learns that his actions may have consequences. It may be a lesson for the parents as well.
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05-24-2006, 12:21 AM
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Re: Student Faces Criminal Charges For Teacher Jokes
Falwell is an idiot. As for the kid, make him work at GM when he graduates. That will be punishment enough for anyone. 
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05-24-2006, 01:57 AM
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Falwell is an idiot. As for the kid, make him work at GM when he graduates. That will be punishment enough for anyone.
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lol! I wonder what his myspace page would say about Wagoner? 
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05-24-2006, 10:58 AM
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lol! I wonder what his myspace page would say about Wagoner? 
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He did cut his pay from 4+ million a year to 2+ million a year, so he's trying.  I bet the family has to shop at Walmarts and the local Salvation Army store. A fifty percent pay cut is pretty steep. 
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05-24-2006, 02:12 PM
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Re: Student Faces Criminal Charges For Teacher Jokes
Interesting on the First Amendment front considering a teacher or principal could be recognized as a public figure or even an involuntary one. Though, I believe there is specific laws (prolly judgemade) for defamation and libel concerning student blogging and social sites such as myspace.
Myspace=  anyway, there is proposal in Congress to ban access to those kinda sites on educational properties. Not relevent to this case but I hope they pass it. No parental supervision, a stomping ground for criminals and a waste of educational funds IMO.
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05-24-2006, 02:31 PM
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Re: Student Faces Criminal Charges For Teacher Jokes
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Myspace=  anyway, there is proposal in Congress to ban access to those kinda sites on educational properties. Not relevent to this case but I hope they pass it. No parental supervision, a stomping ground for criminals and a waste of educational funds IMO.
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Exactly...punish the many for the stupidity of the few. Maybe if we started holding kids and parents accountable for their own actions...you know that wonderful thing called "Personal Responsibility"...then maybe they would stop being dumbasses and putting themselves into those situations. Enforce a "you made your bed, now sleep in it" law that prevents these moronic parents from suing because they were too lazy to teach their kids better then that.
I say leave myspace up everywhere. Require each student about 12 and older make a page to see what they do with it. Worst case it would just be an act of darwinism. The dipsh1t who decides to meet too many older people online doesn't live long enough to produce dipsh1ts of their own. Seems like it would make the world a better place if you ask me. Weed out the dumb ones.
Disclaimer: Not defending what the "predators" are doing in any way. Just find it hard to feel sorry for the parents or the kids.
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