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Old 06-04-2006, 02:41 PM
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How about a 5-cylinder Duramax, inline? Remember, the European market will get a diesel.
The Alpha will not have a turbo or a diesel.

How similar would it be for a US made? I heard they euro version wouldn't meet US standards and couldn't be sold here...
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Old 06-04-2006, 03:26 PM
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How similar would it be for a US made? I heard they euro version wouldn't meet US standards and couldn't be sold here...

Not sure, haven't received one yet, supposed to in the next few months. CA has the toughest diesel requirements.
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With the new rules for 2007 diesels, emissions will be even more of a factor thanks to California and Massachusetts helping "lead" the way towards eliminating diesels from the market.

Sarcasm aside, the new rules for 2007 and onward set by the federal government (and based on CARB recommendations) help prevent large scale diesel upgrades. 2006 may very well be the last year that you can get a good diesel vehicle and not be hounded to death by the rule sets.

Most vehicle manufacturers that promote diesel (VW, GM, Ford, Mercedes, Daimler Chrysler) can only sell their vehicles in about 45 states (passenger vehicles). Trucks seem to have a 50 state capability for now...until ULSD (Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel) comes through and you get a wackier situation where 2007 trucks have to literally hunt for ULSD stations.

Because of the stupid rulesets, many automakers won't take the time nor the hassle to do diesel vehicles. In Europe, where the rules are even stricter, they have good diesel vehicles and ultra low emissions. Too bad we can't follow the trend.
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With the new rules for 2007 diesels, emissions will be even more of a factor thanks to California and Massachusetts helping "lead" the way towards eliminating diesels from the market.

Sarcasm aside, the new rules for 2007 and onward set by the federal government (and based on CARB recommendations) help prevent large scale diesel upgrades. 2006 may very well be the last year that you can get a good diesel vehicle and not be hounded to death by the rule sets.

Most vehicle manufacturers that promote diesel (VW, GM, Ford, Mercedes, Daimler Chrysler) can only sell their vehicles in about 45 states (passenger vehicles). Trucks seem to have a 50 state capability for now...until ULSD (Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel) comes through and you get a wackier situation where 2007 trucks have to literally hunt for ULSD stations.

Because of the stupid rulesets, many automakers won't take the time nor the hassle to do diesel vehicles. In Europe, where the rules are even stricter, they have good diesel vehicles and ultra low emissions. Too bad we can't follow the trend.
There are already diesels in development and soon-to-be-use that meet or exceed requirements. There are already diesels out that meet the 45 state requirements. In fact, DC is putting out a 3.0L CRD in a Grand Cherokee for the '07 model.

For the automaker, it's more of a demand issue. Diesels have never had widespread acceptance in passenger vehicles in the states, unless it was a tow vehicle.
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There are already diesels in development and soon-to-be-use that meet or exceed requirements. There are already diesels out that meet the 45 state requirements. In fact, DC is putting out a 3.0L CRD in a Grand Cherokee for the '07 model.

For the automaker, it's more of a demand issue. Diesels have never had widespread acceptance in passenger vehicles in the states, unless it was a tow vehicle.
you live in a fairy land. Do some more research. And maybe if you look hard enough on the internet (since your on here all the time) you will see why the duramax will never be in the H3. Use your head.
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Someone has a stick up his butttttt.
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it's his time of the month. he been like that for the last couple of post now.
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i had an isuzu pup with a 4 cylinder naturally aspirated diesel all thru college - once i blew my bug up! bought it brand new in 1988 for like $7900! we bought it in oregon to forgoe the smog equipment. it averaged 52 to the gallon. great for a ciommuting college student. they used to put those same motors in the troopers, until lots of power became "in style".

nissan xterras in central america come with 4 cylinder turbo diesels and have plenty of power, not to mention great mileage. trust me, we drove it like a rental! not only cuz it was, but you have to to keep up with the costa ricans!!! i was impressed with how tough those xterras really are. it really took a beating. i believe that the h3's weigh quite a bit more than the xterras though and would probably require more push.

the defender 110 four door comes with an in line I-5 turbo diesel and gets over 20 mpg. not available in the US, only v-8. not sure on the dimensions of that motor, but i do think that the 110 four doors weigh just as much as the H3's.
as it was eluded to earier in this thread, it is unfortunate that the US views diesel as more dirty and pollutive than it actually is. diesel motors have become substantially more clean burning and quite in recent years. maybe it is just that i am going deaf?!?
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Default Re: diesel swap

I think the v6 diesel out of the newer Cadillac CTS will be just fine and pass all emissions.

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