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06-04-2006, 05:05 PM
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Re: diesel swap
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With the new rules for 2007 diesels, emissions will be even more of a factor thanks to California and Massachusetts helping "lead" the way towards eliminating diesels from the market.
Sarcasm aside, the new rules for 2007 and onward set by the federal government (and based on CARB recommendations) help prevent large scale diesel upgrades. 2006 may very well be the last year that you can get a good diesel vehicle and not be hounded to death by the rule sets.
Most vehicle manufacturers that promote diesel (VW, GM, Ford, Mercedes, Daimler Chrysler) can only sell their vehicles in about 45 states (passenger vehicles). Trucks seem to have a 50 state capability for now...until ULSD (Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel) comes through and you get a wackier situation where 2007 trucks have to literally hunt for ULSD stations.
Because of the stupid rulesets, many automakers won't take the time nor the hassle to do diesel vehicles. In Europe, where the rules are even stricter, they have good diesel vehicles and ultra low emissions. Too bad we can't follow the trend.
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There are already diesels in development and soon-to-be-use that meet or exceed requirements. There are already diesels out that meet the 45 state requirements. In fact, DC is putting out a 3.0L CRD in a Grand Cherokee for the '07 model.
For the automaker, it's more of a demand issue. Diesels have never had widespread acceptance in passenger vehicles in the states, unless it was a tow vehicle.
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06-04-2006, 08:02 PM
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Re: diesel swap
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Originally Posted by PARAGON
There are already diesels in development and soon-to-be-use that meet or exceed requirements. There are already diesels out that meet the 45 state requirements. In fact, DC is putting out a 3.0L CRD in a Grand Cherokee for the '07 model.
For the automaker, it's more of a demand issue. Diesels have never had widespread acceptance in passenger vehicles in the states, unless it was a tow vehicle.
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you live in a fairy land. Do some more research. And maybe if you look hard enough on the internet (since your on here all the time) you will see why the duramax will never be in the H3. Use your head. 
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06-04-2006, 11:50 PM
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Re: diesel swap
Someone has a stick up his butttttt.
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06-05-2006, 12:00 AM
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Re: diesel swap
it's his time of the month. he been like that for the last couple of post now.
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06-05-2006, 12:34 AM
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Re: diesel swap
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it's his time of the month. he been like that for the last couple of post now.
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sorry im just tired of him making idiotic posts that are not true. I have friends that specifically build duramaxes, so im very knowledgable about diesels
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06-05-2006, 01:14 AM
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Re: diesel swap
Well then youre the man for this post...any more info? 
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06-05-2006, 02:03 AM
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Re: diesel swap
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sorry im just tired of him making idiotic posts that are not true. I have friends that specifically build duramaxes, so im very knowledgable about diesels
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Who gives a sh!t if a punk kid that can't even afford the tankful of gas for the H3 much less the vehicle is tired of anything.
How many models of Duramax do you think there are and/or will be? Stupid kid, Duramax is an engine line name just like Vortec is on the gas side. 
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06-05-2006, 03:21 AM
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Re: diesel swap
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Who gives a sh!t if a punk kid that can't even afford the tankful of gas for the H3 much less the vehicle is tired of anything.
How many models of Duramax do you think there are and/or will be? Stupid kid, Duramax is an engine line name just like Vortec is on the gas side. 
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No ****, I guess you didn't understand my comment when i said he specifies in building them. Are you that retarded or just need glasses? wait, let me guess im lying right and youd like me to have him come in this forum and tell you as to why there will never be a smaller version of the duramax in an h3. Like I said before, do some research before you decide to chime in with your fantasy ideas.
ill give you a hint-size,power,mpg, oh yea and POWER!! yes I know they have already created smaller versions of the diesel but look as to the weight of the vehicle that they are in. If people are already complaining(like me) about the power now, do you honestly think a diesel is even a topic of discussion. NO. Get your head out of your ass and think retard.
PS- If youd like to doubt me about this, i have found a page testing vehicles around the same weigh size as the H3 with smaller versions of the diesel used today. The results are pretty horrible. And for it to be daily drivable they would seriously have to comptensate price for more modifications, which I know GM would not make a risk that high on a pretty demanding new line.
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