Why the FJ Cruiser is no Threat to the H3

[31_bandits]

it seems to me, just my two pennies, that to compare things, you can do any of the following

-compare two vehicles, whatever form they may be in

-cmopare stock vehicles. that would be relevant to jeep-vs-hummer. you'd need the same places (and a variety of places, mind) and the same or comparable drivers. and no 100000000% subjective jpmagazine BS, you'd have to simply have pass/fail for a series of obstacles.

-compare the build-potential of a variety of vehicles. what can be built starting from a jeep or a hummer or whatever. but even then you'd have to have the same person build the thing with the same quota of available options - or feasibly available options.


but you can't say "landcruisers rule" or "jeeps rule" based on a wild non-jeep or non-landcruiser.


that's like strapping a rocket motor on a sophia and screaming "kias are the fastest cars on the road!!!!"

[ShaggyX]

FWIW...body clearance does not factor into "Minimum Clearance". Just because a truck looks like it sits higher...doesnt mean it has more Minimum clearance. Tire size and axle configuration are really the only 2 factors for Minimum clearance.

In the grand scheme of things I would imagine it really just comes down to personal preferance. For pure off-road give me a Tacoma TRD any day (in hindsight...that would have been a better purchase then the Xterra). That is probably my ideal configuration. 32's stock. Rear locker. Long Wheelbase. Minimal weight. Probably the perfect truck for me.

Put an H2 owner behind the wheel of an H2 and a Taco and the H2 will do better 99% of the time

Put me behind the wheel of an H2 and a Taco (bear in mind I have never actually driven a Taco...this is based on my experience with my former s10 Zr2) and the Taco will do better 99% of the time (I do not "Baja"...so that does not factor into the equation).

[31_bandits]

yeah, i see your point about wheels + axle. the other clearance specs are dubious as well, though, as presented by alot of brands. Somebody should just take a ruler, an afternoon, and make a same-basis database, that would be funny.

i think i might take a taco in the mud. i also think the factory H2 tires suck in mud, and i'm not sure that the TCS helps yoru cause either, somehow i think i'd rather have wanton runaway wheel spin. but then i really am not a mud bogging guru.

anyway, i think that the "jeep-vs-hummer" as commonly presented boil about down to this:

look you guys, monte carlos are way faster than ferarris!!!



crazy bugger idiots that bought F360s!




I think it would be interesting to sort of have a contest for stock vehicles, and also for build-potential with different vehicles. and for build-potential while retaining reasonable daily driver, or at least occasional street-driver performance. somebody should do that.