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06-07-2006, 05:21 AM
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Re: May Sales Figures
thanks you guys.
from http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Jr_car2006.jpg
"Toyota, Lexus and Scion cars and trucks are sold at more than 1,700 independent North American dealers (1,400 in the U.S.)"
hummer.com lists 20 in california, 10 in florida, 3 in colorado, 13 in texas. that must be at about 1/4 of the nationals population, no? so lets guess 150-200, or 7-9 times fewer than 'yota.
H3s are cool. but they never wave at me.

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06-07-2006, 05:59 AM
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Re: May Sales Figures
31 bandits, thanks for showing up that yuppie FJ troll. Considering that there are Toyota dealers everywhere, I'd say that the FJ sales are pretty lousy.
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06-07-2006, 01:41 PM
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Re: May Sales Figures
thanks aubs
side but related: the FJ isn't american (even worse than american is general motors), and it doesn't say hummer, it says 'yota. and 'yota makes prius's, and we all know that people who care drive prius's. so the FJ must be good, and certainly we know we don't want hummers on the road, so lets make some hype about FJ>hummer and get it here and there in newspapers and websites, because we're liberal media, and this is our job. So yes, the FJ is far better than the H3. >roll eyes<
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06-07-2006, 10:14 PM
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Re: May Sales Figures
The FJ is an interesting vehicle, but not for me, not because it is Japanese, but I think it is downright ugly; especially the interior.
The point of more dealers versus Hummer is a good point. One other point is that when the H3 launched, GM marketing called for 25K a year; roughly 2100 per month. The sales surprised everyone, so production was booted up for the H3 and this was not a problem for the line since Colorado/Canyon weren't doing so hot. Big problem was parts. Suppliers were scheduled per the original estimate, they in turn had to boost production.
In my humble opinion, the big competitor for the H3 is coming next year, in the form of a 4-door Wrangler.
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06-08-2006, 01:13 AM
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Re: May Sales Figures
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In my humble opinion, the big competitor for the H3 is coming next year, in the form of a 4-door Wrangler.
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The aftermarket for the H3 is way too limited for it to ever compete with the Jeep Wrangler. The major competition will be: 2007 Jeep JK vs. 2007 Toyota FJ.
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06-08-2006, 02:06 AM
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I guess you didn't understand my statement, so I'll rephrase. The biggest threat to H3 sales is the new Wrangler; not in my opinion, the FJ. I believe the H3 bit into the Jeep market, so I guess it would be fair.
As to the number of dealers, GM will keep them in the same number. Hummer is a specialty vehicle, always will be. Therefore they will never have an outlet size like Toyota, Jeep, Buick, etc.
What they could do, but it might ruin the brand, is to allow more multiple carline dealers to sell Hummers out of one facility.
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06-08-2006, 01:19 PM
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Re: May Sales Figures
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I guess you didn't understand my statement, so I'll rephrase. The biggest threat to H3 sales is the new Wrangler; not in my opinion, the FJ. I believe the H3 bit into the Jeep market, so I guess it would be fair.
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i wonder if the new Wrangler will be worth much offroad in stock form? some of the offroading specs aren't that good, and jeep (though not as much as 'yota) tends to over-state their specs anyway. the h3 is underrated for clearance by hummer as far as i can measure.
but for sure we will be able to browse at least 29 jeep forums discussing either
a) how its a sell out
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b) how its better than any hummer at anything

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