For the gun lovers

[Mr. I - Man]

That looks hella accurate

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by Mr. I - Man

That looks hella accurate

I'm sure it is out to 1000mm

[h2co-pilot]

I don't think that tiny gun can handle that much more.

They must have put an automatic machine gun rounder thing on a little pistol right? Couldn't something give out and break?

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by h2co-pilot

Couldn't something give out and break?

No. It's a Glock.






Of course, now some yahoo will post a pic of the 1 in zillion that has a barrel failure.

[dеiтайожни]

That is the coolest, I want.

Originally Posted by CO Hummer

No. It's a Glock.
Of course, now some yahoo will post a pic of the 1 in zillion that has a barrel failure.

[MarK M]

speaking of guns... anyone have hookups for lasermax?

I'm trying to score one for my beretta.

[Fubar]

illegal or not very cool.

[MarK M]

Originally Posted by PhilD

Without going into a long discussion about the pros/cons of laser sights, I have to ask why?

On a pistol they are gimmick at best, a nuisance and hindrance at worst. I tried one many moons ago and found it is slower to aim than regular sights and does nothing for accuracy. It clearly gives away your position and holds no value in my view. They aren't too bad for training, but spending the money on ammo would be a wiser choice if you want to practice and become better.

If you really want one, check gunbroker.com, they come up from time to time at good prices.

I hear you on practice and become better. I was just thinking for intimidating factor. If for gods sake i ever have to use it for protection, instead of firing a round into the guy, maybe showing a beam would scare them off without anyone getting killed.

eh screw it... we want them dead... lol

[h2co-pilot]

That's why when I am home alone and I get scared- I sometimes flash a laser pointer out the windows at incognito angles.

[ETD]

Originally Posted by MarK M

eh screw it... we want them dead... lol

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by PhilD

The purpose of drawing a firearm for self defense is to "stop" the would be assailant, by stop I mean stop with deadly force. Once you have made the decision to use deadly force, then the best of course of action is to follow through with that. In fact many states don't allow you to threaten the use of deadly force, only to use it.

In the home, intimidation factor may be of value, but the sound of 12 gauge pump racking will likely be way more effective. Besides which, you are clearly showing them where you are and what your intentions are. While you intimidate them, they'll most probably shoot you.

In the unfortunate event that you need to use deadly force, then that is what you need to use, not the threat of it, in my view.

Exactly. Additionally, at close quarters, it's hard to distinguish when a threatening criminal who has broken into your home is being "scared off" or whether he is drawing a weapon and moving to cover, from behind which he will shoot you in the head. It all happens in a split second. If you have any doubts about terminating someone who has broken into your home and is, by definition, putting the lives of you and your family at risk, you shouldn't have the gun. Your hesitation will possibly lead to being disarmed and killed by your own weapon. The only instance when I might possibly (though not likely) withhold fire in such a situation would be if I could see he had no weapon in his hands for certain, and he immediately raised them in the air. Even then, he would be terminated immediately if he made a fleeing maneuver, because it might just as easily be a tactically offensive maneuver. It doesn’t take long to draw a weapon. The only way, in the unlikely event that I withheld lethal force, that he would survive is if he followed my instructions, maintained elevated hands, got on his knees, put his hands on the floor, and spread eagle laid face down, etc. If he’s turning and running through my house (i.e., getting “scared away”), I don’t know if he’s getting a friend, trying to get upstairs or downstairs where my wife and kids are, etc. He does that, he dies. He probably dies anyway. If he didn’t want to die, he should not have unlawfully broken into my residence, inherently threatening my family with unknown levels of violence and horror.