Is the LR3 a Serious Off-Road Competitor?

[BlueTJCO]

you want to argue about a Land Cruiser behing a good off-road vehicle but ask if the LR3 should be any good on the trails........

[Aubs]

Originally Posted by Mooncricket

you want to argue about a Land Cruiser behing a good off-road vehicle but ask if the LR3 should be any good on the trails........

I think it's a fair question. The LR3 has a center and rear locker, computer traction control systems, and an air suspension. It's angles suck, and the tires suck, but it's got room, and some nice on-road features... The LC is a dinosaur. It's like riding on a Fischer-Price Trike when you could have a Yeti or Specialized mountain bike.

I wanted to know what other people had to say. And they pretty much thought it sucked, like I was figuring.

[BlueTJCO]

but then again most people would say that the Land Rovers are tippy and top heavy and I tend to think they kick ass on the trails. The LR3 just has way too much pretty plastic to mess up but I'm sure I'll be eating my words when one destroys me on the trails in my jeep someday....

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by Mooncricket

but then again most people would say that the Land Rovers are tippy and top heavy and I tend to think they kick ass on the trails. The LR3 just has way too much pretty plastic to mess up but I'm sure I'll be eating my words when one destroys me on the trails in my jeep someday....

But you also want to stick your foot in other guys' asses.

[HummBebe]

I have personally wheeled with the LR3's.

It was a desert run, and they did sustain some bumper damage. But I think if they had a few mods, ie tires and a rock rails etc, they would make a great wheeling vehicle.

They have traction control up the arse. A button for every type of terrain, and it will literally drive itself!

They are not rock buggy's, but neither is an H3.

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

I have personally wheeled with the LR3's.

It was a desert run, and they did sustain some bumper damage. But I think if they had a few mods, ie tires and a rock rails etc, they would make a great wheeling vehicle.

They have traction control up the arse. A button for every type of terrain, and it will literally drive itself!

They are not rock buggy's, but neither is an H3.

You're a girl. We don't care about your opinion. Don't you have housework to do?

[HummBebe]

I think you should take a trip to the mall.

[Aubs]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

I have personally wheeled with the LR3's.

It was a desert run, and they did sustain some bumper damage. But I think if they had a few mods, ie tires and a rock rails etc, they would make a great wheeling vehicle.

They have traction control up the arse. A button for every type of terrain, and it will literally drive itself!

They are not rock buggy's, but neither is an H3.

I echo these thoughts in a way. I find that A/B/D angles are really important, but also the traction control systems play a huge part. I wheeled with a buddy that had a Cherokee, and basically he just gunned whatever he wanted to conquer. With TC, you can go at a nice, slow pace and let the vehicle do the work.

I do think the LR3 tires are not very well suited for off-road situations. But the Terrain Response system looks like it could be pretty amazing. And as for the tippy bit, Land Rover claims that the LR3 will do a 45 degree ascent drive through, and a 35 degree sustained side slope. Note that's degrees, not %. Also, the Hill Descent Control is pretty amazing (BMW has it, got it from LR) and it works very well when descending an icy slope anyway.

Actually, I shouldn't have spoken so quickly earlier. The approach angle matches the H3 (well, .3 off), the breakover beats the H3 over the head, but the departure angle is poor, probably because of the spare's location.

You do get 9.5 inches of clearance under the differentials and can do 27" of water. Actually the physical dimensions are very similar. Interestingly enough you have to add underbody protection to an H3 and an LR3 to get decent protection. The LR3 does offer something I haven't seen on one yet, a snorkel in the accessories picker. I wonder what kind of wading you can do then? There's no specs on it. Heck, there's even a cage for Shaggy:




Let's see, also we have a 4-corner independent air suspension (which is probably a problem spot for LR), and you get 7,700 lbs towing capacity. That's more than my H2! Curb weight is 5,700lbs.


Well, I think tomorrow I might just go drive one of these things. Just for the hell of it. Maybe they will let me take my H2 over the course too.

Wow, in May only 1,549 LR3's were sold. That's down 12.6% from last year.


Finally, LR says there is 10 inches front and 13 inches rear wheel travel. Is this a lot? I can't find the specs on the H3's travel. The DAKAR version has 20, but that doesn't even look like an H3 anymore..

[Aubs]

What, an LR3 actually doing something somewhat interesting?



http://www.flickr.com/photos/16177735@N00/?saved=1

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by Aubs

Finally, LR says there is 10 inches front and 13 inches rear wheel travel. Is this a lot? I can't find the specs on the H3's travel. The DAKAR version has 20, but that doesn't even look like an H3 anymore..

Yeah, that's a lot ... leads the pack. By comparison:

2006 H1 Alpha - 9" fr, 9" rear
2006 H2 - 8.7" fr, 10.8 rear
2005 Grd Cherokee - 8.9" fr, 8.8" rear
2007 FJ Cruiser - 7.9" fr, 9.1" rear
2006 Liberty - 8" fr, 8" rear
2000 4runner - 7.9" fr, 6" rear
2005 Xterra - 7" fr, 10" rear
1995 Samurai - 5" fr, 6" rear

[BlueTJCO]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

But you also want to stick your foot in other guys' asses.

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[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by Mooncricket

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