Why the FJ Cruiser is no Threat to the H3

[31_bandits]

i don't blame the FJ dudes for not hopping at the opportunity.

all this inter-brand rivalry makes me a bit leery at times as well. over the weekend i was advised by a guy with a really BIG jeep to air down to 3psi in my tires, and he said it was practically zero-chance that i'd blow a bead.

was he trying to help, or was that hand about 1/2" from his camera hoping the hummer would blow a bead so he could take pictures of it and spread them across all 31 continents in the nearest 11 solar systems as "proof" that hummers sucked?

How many times in america this year will some dude try to get somebody elses $70k H2 all scratched up just for kicks? it'll happen

His jeep was HUGE. he had 40-something inch tires that stuck out about 8" to a foot on either side. it was cool

and my hummer was too wide to really go on most of the trails w/o concern. An Audi could have driven some of the trails, and could have done it alot faster than i did in th ehummer. In that type of place, it would have been alot more fun in a jeep.

[31_bandits]

or possibility of malice aside, wouldn't it be better / more fun to offroad with a bunch of people that you knew wanted you to make it up the hill and over the rock, rather than worry that somebody wanted you to fail?

i know you ******* guys would help anybody driving anything as best you could, but the FJ dudes might not be as certain about that.

I think it would be fun if i got one of everything and compared them. save some pennies.

[Aubs]

Originally Posted by 31_bandits

or possibility of malice aside, wouldn't it be better / more fun to offroad with a bunch of people that you knew wanted you to make it up the hill and over the rock, rather than worry that somebody wanted you to fail?

i know you ******* guys would help anybody driving anything as best you could, but the FJ dudes might not be as certain about that.

I think it would be fun if i got one of everything and compared them. save some pennies.

Yes, I think you should go out, and get each of these vehicles and we can test them to the fullest of their abilities. Then we can truly have arguements. And you can have a thousand trail rigs.

[31_bandits]

what would there be to include?

I'm not particularily interested in "wildly modified hummer -vs- wildly modified toyota" contests. That has nothing to do with hummer, jeep, toyota, or anything else. Given a few bucks, you could make a Geo Tracker a great offroad machine in the jeep mold, no? Same basic product when you're done, perhaps?

those things should have heir own brand, maybe something like "Wanger". What do you wheel? "A Wanger". that has a nice ring.

But you'd compare Rubicon, the 3 hummers, a pickup or 2 - maybe one big, one small, an LR3 or Rangie Rovie, a G500 and an FJ...

really, what else is there to compare? does anything else really lay claim to offroad excellence? I guess i'm short an FJ, an H1, a 'Benz, and a Land Rover, but could otherwise borrow (or already own) the other vehicles.

That would actually be really fun, but to be sure it would be the most honest test if the tester owned all the vehicles... minimize the prejudice and bribery that basically defines most reviews of, well, any kind.

[Aubs]

Originally Posted by 31_bandits

what would there be to include?

I'm not particularily interested in "wildly modified hummer -vs- wildly modified toyota" contests. That has nothing to do with hummer, jeep, toyota, or anything else. Given a few bucks, you could make a Geo Tracker a great offroad machine in the jeep mold, no? Same basic product when you're done, perhaps?

those things should have heir own brand, maybe something like "Wanger". What do you wheel? "A Wanger". that has a nice ring.

But you'd compare Rubicon, the 3 hummers, a pickup or 2 - maybe one big, one small, an LR3 or Rangie Rovie, a G500 and an FJ...

really, what else is there to compare? does anything else really lay claim to offroad excellence? I guess i'm short an FJ, an H1, a 'Benz, and a Land Rover, but could otherwise borrow (or already own) the other vehicles.

That would actually be really fun, but to be sure it would be the most honest test if the tester owned all the vehicles... minimize the prejudice and bribery that basically defines most reviews of, well, any kind.

Well, there are some who say that the Toureg is a 'true' off-road competitor. You'd have to include that just to shut them up.

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