Why the FJ Cruiser is no Threat to the H3

[IWheelDoYou]

New here, love this topic as I just got back from an event (the GSMTR) where the Toyota Trail Team showed up. I hope to interject some reason to this (admittedly entertaining) thread.

Toyota has formed three FJ Cruiser Trail Teams. West, Central and East Coast. These three teams of two FJCs each go to off-road events large and small and wheel all the trails. Plus, they let drivers wheel them, and not just on on fire road stretches. They let you wheel them up obstacles. Very cool.

The FJ does very well offroad. It uses traction control or an e-locker to do this. It wheeled Moab. It did the entire Rubicon trail in STOCK form. See pics here: http://www.4wdtoyotaowner.com/FJCruiser.html. It's been to GSMTR, Hollister Hills, Paragon, etc. So there's no doubt it performs well off-road.

Quality: clear winner, Toyota. Not trolling here. Simple fact. Hummer isn't even close. Here's the link.

http://www.whas11.com/sharedcontent/....6468a31b.html

Whoever that complete dork "Aubs" is who keeps talking about the FJC "being a threat to the the H3", what the hell is that about? If you want to wheel a Hummer, buy one. If you want to wheel an FJ Cruiser, buy one. "A threat"? Ummm....ok. That's like saying chocolate is a threat to vanilla. Dumb! Or funny--like the brass at Toyota said: "When we build this FJC it's to kill the H3 line!" Ryyyyyt.

For god's sake, shut up and wheel!

Respectfully,

Mike

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by IWheelDoYou

New here, love this topic...


For DRTY's sake, shut up and wheel!

Respectfully,

Mike

We just love to rub your newbie noses in the same sh*t others attempted to rub ours in.

BTW, how's Seattle?

[The ArchiTexan]

Originally Posted by IWheelDoYou

New here, love this topic as I just got back from an event (the GSMTR) where the Toyota Trail Team showed up. I hope to interject some reason to this (admittedly entertaining) thread.

Toyota has formed three FJ Cruiser Trail Teams. West, Central and East Coast. These three teams of two FJCs each go to off-road events large and small and wheel all the trails. Plus, they let drivers wheel them, and not just on on fire road stretches. They let you wheel them up obstacles. Very cool.

The FJ does very well offroad. It uses traction control or an e-locker to do this. It wheeled Moab. It did the entire Rubicon trail in STOCK form. See pics here: http://www.4wdtoyotaowner.com/FJCruiser.html. It's been to GSMTR, Hollister Hills, Paragon, etc. So there's no doubt it performs well off-road.

Quality: clear winner, Toyota. Not trolling here. Simple fact. Hummer isn't even close. Here's the link.

http://www.whas11.com/sharedcontent/....6468a31b.html

Whoever that complete dork "Aubs" is who keeps talking about the FJC "being a threat to the the H3", what the hell is that about? If you want to wheel a Hummer, buy one. If you want to wheel an FJ Cruiser, buy one. "A threat"? Ummm....ok. That's like saying chocolate is a threat to vanilla. Dumb! Or funny--like the brass at Toyota said: "When we build this FJC it's to kill the H3 line!" Ryyyyyt.

For god's sake, shut up and wheel!

Respectfully,

Mike

LMAO!!! Those are test vehicles, heck I'll drive a Rolls Royce if someone is paying for it and not worrying about getting damage. And those FJ's in Moab are modifieds.....lol. I wonder what it looks like after completing the Rubicon trail...hmm probably in the repair shop!

[IWheelDoYou]

Originally Posted by sfox

The ones that went on the Rubicon were modded as well

S

Totally wrong. They were stock except for tires (more aggressive tread but OEM size). Roll your eyes when you open them--the photos clearly show it stock, and MANY pubs have written up the FJC on the Rubicon story.

[HummerNewbie]

Originally Posted by IWheelDoYou

...MANY pubs have written up the FJC on the Rubicon story.

Of course they have. The pubs love Toyota and would probably right a favorable review on anything with a Yota badge on it. I have not seen any of the FJ Rubicon reports but in general, that's how it is.

[IWheelDoYou]

Originally Posted by HummerNewbie

Of course they have. The pubs love Toyota and would probably right a favorable review on anything with a Yota badge on it. I have not seen any of the FJ Rubicon reports but in general, that's how it is.

Ya gotta love guys who admit they never read the item but still post an opinion on it. LOL. Anyway, the point was, the mags all confirmed the FJC was stock--we're not talking about how they said it performed. However, here's the basic lowdown:

There was only ONE FJ Cruiser on that particular trip. Driver was Joe Bacal, spotter was Bill Burke (anyone who wheels knows who Bill Burke is, those who don't go to http://www.bb4wa.com). FJC in question was the actual prototype version worth some $250,000. Bacal was apparently under orders NOT to trash it cos of that reason! Crazy--they tell you to drive the Con in a stock FJC, but "don't do any damage to it." Hello, pressure!

Well, they did it. They did have to winch and use the Hi-Lift jack in spots; they didn't just walk on through. But the stock FJ Cruiser made it undamaged. One more fact, one publication, http://www.4wdtoyotoaowner.com, says that they did do an electrical mod that let the ATRAC work with the E-locker. (Production versions you use one or the other, not both together.

I'd be interested in seeing a stock H3 do the Con. I'M NOT SAYING IT CAN'T!! Just like to see the pics of it there, in action, stock.

[HummerNewbie]

Originally Posted by IWheelDoYou

Ya gotta love guys who admit they never read the item but still post an opinion on it.

I assume you are talking about me and if you are, could you please point out where I posted an opinion on the item

Originally Posted by IWheelDoYou

I'd be interested in seeing a stock H3 do the Con. I'M NOT SAYING IT CAN'T!! Just like to see the pics of it there, in action, stock.

Wasn't the Con one of the testing grounds for the H3. Have not read beyond this post but I am sure someone has or will post about that.

Originally Posted by IWheelDoYou

Cool shot, glad you wheel your rig!

Thanks

[IWheelDoYou]

Here ya go.

And btw, I NEVER have said that Hummers can't wheel in any of my posts.

And in advance, for all the flamers:

x6
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x6

Cheers!

[IWheelDoYou]

I'd like to see each of the tough guy talkers here to post just one photo of their personal rig in tough offroad action.

Ain't gonna happen cos they don't wheel, they WEB wheel.

That goes for post-erasing admins, too.

[The ArchiTexan]

Originally Posted by IWheelDoYou

I'd like to see each of the tough guy talkers here to post just one photo of their personal rig in tough offroad action.

Ain't gonna happen cos they don't wheel, they WEB wheel.

That goes for post-erasing admins, too.

Hi, I wheeled with my stock FJ, in fact I made it through MOAB with a low ride kit on!! pretty amazing wow!

[HummerNewbie]

You had a post erased? Takes a lot for that to happen around here.

Not that this shot is anything serious (have to find the better shots) nor have I claimed to do serious wheeling but at least I get it dirty.

[IWheelDoYou]

Originally Posted by HummerNewbie

You had a post erased? Takes a lot for that to happen around here.

Not that this shot is anything serious (have to find the better shots) nor have I claimed to do serious wheeling but at least I get it dirty.

Cool shot, glad you wheel your rig!

[Ipedog]

Originally Posted by IWheelDoYou

I'd like to see each of the tough guy talkers here to post just one photo of their personal rig in tough offroad action.

Ain't gonna happen cos they don't wheel, they WEB wheel.

That goes for post-erasing admins, too.

I haven't "talked tough", could care less who I wheel with provided its with friendly people, think the "my brand is better than your brand" thing is total bullsh1t...

So, to your web wheeler comment I give you these:







And just so that you don't say all I'm posting is me






This whole damned thing is stupid. The FJ is going to be a great truck. The H3 is a great truck. I'm actually jealous of the volume of suspension lifts, winch bumpers, etc. that are already available for the FJ.

Lets just put the BS away and have a great time wheeling our trucks, okay?

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by IWheelDoYou

I'd like to see each of the tough guy talkers here to post just one photo of their personal rig in tough offroad action.

Ain't gonna happen cos they don't wheel, they WEB wheel.

That goes for post-erasing admins, too.

It feels very weird. People coming to a Hummer forum looking for off-road validation.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by IWheelDoYou

And btw, I NEVER have said that Hummers can't wheel in any of my posts.

No, what you said was this.

Originally Posted by IWheelDoYou

I'd like to see each of the tough guy talkers here to post just one photo of their personal rig in tough offroad action.

Ain't gonna happen cos they don't wheel, they WEB wheel.

You are a homosexual, aren't you.

[IWheelDoYou]

Originally Posted by sfox

And don't forget about the override of the traction control system...and the tires were a HUGE improvement over what is the stock offering.

I stand by my

S

Not that you knew any of that prior to me telling you. LOL. What's funny is, if you read Bacal's piece, you'd learn that he NEVER used the e-locker!! HAHAHA. It was ATRAC the whole time; the engineers did the tweak and he never used them together. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Glad you posted a wheeling pic--of your wife--though my old Subaru Outback could do that stretch.

[IWheelDoYou]

Nice wheeling pics, PhilD!

[IWheelDoYou]

Originally Posted by sfox

And the pics you are gonna post of your truck doing something my wife can't are where? (BTW, I never said I drive, I spot and try and keep others from breaking their junk...it's what I do ) and I posted about the traction mod prior to reading your post...the driver has since admitted that he infact did use it...and Bill Burke has turned into something of a tool these days

S

Wow.

Your last sentence proves that ALL of your posts are not worth reading. If you think Bill Burke is "a tool"--a guy who literally does more wheeling in a single month than you (or any of us) does in a year--then you're simply a fool. Bill Burke's skills stand for themselves. Camel Trophy driver for the USA alone gets him huge respect, and to this day he wheels all year, all the time., in places you couldn't possibly even comprehend.

Dis him, and you just make yourself look stupid. And not just from that mud puddle splash photo

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by IWheelDoYou

Wow.

Your last sentence proves that ALL of your posts are not worth reading. If you think Bill Burke is "a tool"--a guy who literally does more wheeling in a single month than you (or any of us) does in a year--then you're simply a fool. Bill Burke's skills stand for themselves. Camel Trophy driver for the USA alone gets him huge respect, and to this day he wheels all year, all the time., in places you couldn't possibly even comprehend.

Dis him, and you just make yourself look stupid. And not just from that mud puddle splash photo

Look ma! No brain!

[The Green Lantern]

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