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Old 07-25-2006, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: WARNING - H3 Off Road Lights - Possible Fire Hazard

Gee, irregardless of whether or not the switch was wired hot or not, if you turn on the switch, be it a throw or push button type, the lights will come on, and the covers, if installed will melt.
I agree, if wired to ign Hot versus B+, the ignition switch would cut them off.
So, not sure what you are trying to say, except you accidentally hit a switch and burned your covers. Hell, I have done that a few times myself with aftermarket lights. From experience, the covers will not burn, but will melt quite nicely. My experience comes from a lot higher output bulbs than the 55 watters used on the factory lights, I never started a fire.

Also, hate to inform you, this is not considered an "electronic" circuit, it is an electrical circuit, we are not talking in milliamperes, but in AMPS. There is a big difference between the two.

Want to change it to a ignition circuit, write me and I'll send you the exterior light schematics. With your experience, it should not be a problem.
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Hummer called me back and they are going to replace the whole thing, wiring it to the ignition switch, despite the fact they claim they followed GM specs in wiring it the way they did. I called a GM garage and they stated that the wiring should have never been connected the way it is...

So regardless of what you call it, someone screwed up. Fair warning for those with these lights - while "us idiots" who know not to run our lights with the covers on have now been re-educated that you aren't supposed to (land o goshen, golly gee), an accidental switch activation due to improper wiring is possible with these lights. Check yours before you have the same problem I did.
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Hummer called me back and they are going to replace the whole thing, wiring it to the ignition switch, despite the fact they claim they followed GM specs in wiring it the way they did. I called a GM garage and they stated that the wiring should have never been connected the way it is...

Then the 2nd GM garage you called is wrong.

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So regardless of what you call it, someone screwed up.

Just you, my friend.

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Fair warning for those with these lights - while "us idiots" who know not to run our lights with the covers on have now been re-educated that you aren't supposed to (land o goshen, golly gee), an accidental switch activation due to improper wiring is possible with these lights. Check yours before you have the same problem I did.

Or just don't turn on the switch with the covers on.
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So, not sure what you are trying to say, except you accidentally hit a switch and burned your covers.

Yeah, that was my impression as well - your title is a bit alarmist.

I accidently broke the plastic tabs that keep the covers on so I ride without them. I know they are technically supposed to be covered when not in use, but I have ended up using the lights a whole lot more now since I can just hit the switch instead of having to get my lazy ass out of the truck to remove the covers.
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I'd rather be an alarmist than to have somebody's child burn up because of someone's stupid mistake and the chance that a fire may happen regardless of the odds and experience.

Also, don't try riding around Pennsylvania with your covers off because you didn't feel like putting them on - its an instant invite for a respectable traffic citation.
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I'd rather be an alarmist than to have somebody's child burn up because of someone's stupid mistake and the chance that a fire may happen regardless of the odds and experience.

Also, don't try riding around Pennsylvania with your covers off because you didn't feel like putting them on - its an instant invite for a respectable traffic citation.

Aren't you on 1st name basis with the PA Attorney General? Maybe you should just call him and tell him to ban all offroad light covers because of the pervasive threat to all helpless children due to their own PARENTS negligence. Sorry, buddy, this one is all you...
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evldave with the FSM. I suppose I could have called you this weekend....glad I kept you cell, I'll remember next time
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Off-road light schematic
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evldave with the FSM. I suppose I could have called you this weekend....glad I kept you cell, I'll remember next time

Anytime! Just let me know! I carry them in the truck, so they are almost always at hand in case of emergency (ps-I did the same thing as the tech when I took my panel off - forgot to hook back up the fan control, took me a full day to realize it was my own dang fault )
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Eldave has done an excellent job of rebuttal, and that wiring schematic is just like mine.

I carry my schematics on the laptop....
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I'd rather be an alarmist than to have somebody's child burn up because of someone's stupid mistake and the chance that a fire may happen regardless of the odds and experience.


And we should close down the trails that are getting all torn up by 4 wheelers and bikers. Save the forest for our children! (unless they get all burnt up by leaving you light covers on and starting the city on fire) then we can keep the trails open

If I leave the stove on, a candle lit, or the Iron on, and it burns my house down, who can I blame?

Really, thanks for the heads up! I always like it when I can learn from someone elses mistake. God knows I make enough of my own!
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