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07-25-2006, 11:13 PM
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Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
It has taken the BIG 6 already!, will Knock a bison off it's hooves, and has more than enough power to Hit a Bear in the Head and travel completely through it! @ 30 Yds!  The 8" barrel is suppose to be a True 200 Yd Hunter!..I Opted for the Compact 4" Self defense model!
Another Big Z Custom in the Makin!..Laser Grip, NiteSights, and Some Special, Loads!..Snake Dens!...I need to Find Snake DEN!...j/k
I'm a goin to Alaska! Fishing! And well armed!
Reality Check!...talking about it is one thing, having to do is another!
Absolutely! defend yourself if you have to! just Bear in mind a few things (intended)....1.) PAPER WORK! if you have to shoot one, (they will know if it self defense!) there will be PLENTY OF IT!......2.) 25 Yards of Mean Bear charging, PLUG UM! You CAN'T out Run!---Last resort option is to shoot, be sure you have to!....VERY Doubtfull!....Making a bunch of noise is best, chucking rock, or cracking one into a tree will 99% of the time send a bear running!
Know the Difference between Griz And Black Bear??
Griz Will Just KILL YA! A Black Bear Likes to Shread and eat a little! 
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07-25-2006, 11:17 PM
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Compare some rounds
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07-25-2006, 11:41 PM
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compare 2
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07-26-2006, 12:17 AM
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Re: Buying new pistol, need advice
Forgot the Venerable 22 And 22Mag! 
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07-26-2006, 12:19 AM
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is that the .500 next to the .223? sheesh
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07-26-2006, 12:22 AM
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is that the .500 next to the .223? sheesh
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lol Yep All 440Gr! Waaa Haa!
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08-01-2006, 03:35 AM
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Forgot the Venerable 22 And 22Mag! 
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Sorry don't know much about hand guns. Would you please label the bullets?
I just never got into target shooting with handguns @ stationary targets. Was boring. I enjoy shooting skeets and clays. I enjoy upland hunting but not deer, turkey, or duck- again, too much waiting around to shoot at something stationary. Too ADHD, I guessed  .
Questions for Eldave. What makes you think that you can get a shot on target at a mountain lion that has been stalking you as you are backpacking about, enjoying nature? A bear can run at what, 10-12 mph? I supposed that a Grizzly will give you a moment to get a shot off as it is trying to warn you off but a hungry black bear looking for food? What about taking the time to learn about bear behavior, mating season, roaming habitat in order to avoid running into them? Not telling, just asking out of "ignorance".
As for home defense and knife, as Crocodile dundee said "that's not a knife, this is a knife". 
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Sorry don't know much about hand guns. Would you please label the bullets?
I just never got into target shooting with handguns @ stationary targets. Was boring. I enjoy shooting skeets and clays. I enjoy upland hunting but not deer, turkey, or duck- again, too much waiting around to shoot at something stationary. Too ADHD, I guessed  .
Questions for Eldave. What makes you think that you can get a shot on target at a mountain lion that has been stalking you as you are backpacking about, enjoying nature? A bear can run at what, 10-12 mph? I supposed that a Grizzly will give you a moment to get a shot off as it is trying to warn you off but a hungry black bear looking for food? What about taking the time to learn about bear behavior, mating season, roaming habitat in order to avoid running into them? Not telling, just asking out of "ignorance".
As for home defense and knife, as Crocodile dundee said "that's not a knife, this is a knife". 
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that's not the wakizashi I saw you with last 
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08-01-2006, 09:06 PM
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Nah, that was a bushmaster. It's a good way to carry a compass
Big Z: Ok, now I get it. The magnums are the tall thin ones. Now are you going to make me go back and read the ballistic treatise or can you tell me again why the magnums are more powerful? Is it because they have more grains? Or is it the cap that is special?
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I really thought someone would of taken a stab at the line! By Now!
Let's see! From Left to right...
12Guage"OO" Buck--500Magnum--45acp--44Mag--40 S&W--357Mag--38Spl--9mm Lugar--380--22Mag--22LR
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My 45 acp looks so small next to alot of those cartridges
Glad I have a 44, a couple of 357's and a 38 for good measure. 
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Questions for Eldave. What makes you think that you can get a shot on target at a mountain lion that has been stalking you as you are backpacking about, enjoying nature? A bear can run at what, 10-12 mph? I supposed that a Grizzly will give you a moment to get a shot off as it is trying to warn you off but a hungry black bear looking for food? What about taking the time to learn about bear behavior, mating season, roaming habitat in order to avoid running into them? Not telling, just asking out of "ignorance".
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I don't know if I'll be able to guard against mountain lions. Only if I'm lucky to see them first (that's what dogs are for, and they have growled for no reason in the woods, mountain lion or not, I'll rely on them for early warning).
Bears can run 30+ mph. But typicaly bear behavior is to pose/posture, rear up, growl, then fake charge, then full charge. Unless you come upon them while feeding, and you are being an idiot by not making noise, you will have enough time to be ready.
I'd say I'm very familiar with bear territory (weeklong bike trip, separate backpacking trip in Alaska, backpacking for 6 weeks in Montana, backpacking through Glacier & Yellowstone, North Cascades, plus a run-in live w/a black bear while pheasant hunting near Yakima, WA). I rarely go out in bear country w/out sounds, whistling, dogs, etc. My preference is to avoid contact at all costs, but when it does happen, I don't want to have to worry about it. I shouldn't be stupid enough to come up on a bear feeding, since hopefully I'll have done everything to not put myself in that situation.
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Careful evldave, you'll put an eye out with a gun.
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