For the tree huggin ethanol people

[31_bandits]

the element of liberals (and this certainly isn't all liberals) that is anti-US / anti-American has a built-in loathing for E85 because GM and Ford have endorsed it. Make no mistake, if GM had released the Prius nobody would have wanted it.

If i was GM, i would focus on some permanent/real solution to the problem - like hydrogen cars - and leave the hybrid thing to 'yota and the gang.

And i'd throw every nugget of technology at the next H2 and Escalade and Tahoe... displacement on demand, aerodynamics, tranny & shift patterns, low-loss t-cases and diffs (if that's even possible)...

why? because people absolutely love them, and they are massively profitable, and it would ... it would be a huge strike back into the heart of the anti-GM sentiment from the extremist left.


Do you know something, Fstop?

[31_bandits]

ethanol as fuel only makes sense when working from cellulose instead of starch (or cellulose + starch), because the feedstock for the ethanol production is far cheaper and has less alternate value.

I didn't check out the link that deserth provided, but i have a friend who talks about E85 quite a bit, and has sort of collected the analysis of it including re-sale cost of process byproducts and so forth. He sent me a link to a website of "pro-global-warming" scientists that gave a pretty good essay on ethanol and how it could be made to work within 30-50 years. i'll post if i can find it.