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09-22-2006, 08:15 PM
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Re: Exhaust,intake,throttle body spacer
It worked! Boosting 40psi it needs air! 300hp and 600ftlbs. I kept it down for towing. How would you ever control that in a Hummer?
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09-22-2006, 08:25 PM
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Re: Exhaust,intake,throttle body spacer
Here is a mock up. Im going to have to use a smaller scoop, maybe! I used a piece of an old grill on the truck scoop. H3 will need a mesh screen of some sort to filter out bugs, or not. Water will drop out in the box if it makes it that far or can insert a plug for really wet weather if it scares me. It should drop in the gap between the scoop and inner fender. It does on the truck.
I only have 3400 miles on the H3 I cant quite get up the nerve to cut a hole yet. I found that painting the scoop with matching paint made it last a lot longer. Just another crazy idea. I mean if you want outside air this will work. I will post pictures of what they make for my H3 Tuesday. They are probably going to make it an open shield type. Their idea is more air is better even if some of it is engine heated. The air under there should exchange at a good rate so we will see. I like the idea of the stock box for offroad. Just need to open up the thru the fender snoot. Im working on that whether I use the scoop or not.
On the Dodge Ram it was Ramair I guess this would be Humair? Now if we could actually use the fake air intake..............
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09-22-2006, 09:17 PM
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Re: Exhaust,intake,throttle body spacer
LOOKS INTERESTING. Have you considered warrentee implications. For your intake ram. Have you though about runing a 3" flex tube up from your existing starboard bumper hole routed up thru wheelhouse into a cutout.
This would be less intrusive and also removeable when going in for service... 
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09-23-2006, 04:38 AM
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Re: Exhaust,intake,throttle body spacer
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LOOKS INTERESTING. Have you considered warrentee implications. For your intake ram. Have you though about runing a 3" flex tube up from your existing starboard bumper hole routed up thru wheelhouse into a cutout.
This would be less intrusive and also removeable when going in for service... 
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If the air intake mods dont affect warranty why should they care if I cut a hole in the flare? If I have a wreck and damage the flare it does not void the warranty. I have considered the options and may try to get more air under the fender but the hole needs to be bigger going into the inner fender so they would see that anyway. My dealer installs intakes and throttle bodies and cranks up torsion bars and none of that effects warranty. Corrugated flex hose is really restrictive. Smoothe bore is best. I dont think in the wheel well would be good too much mud and gunk flys around in there but maybe somewhere up front. I think I will go wheelin tomorrow and think about it.
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09-23-2006, 02:42 PM
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Re: Exhaust,intake,throttle body spacer
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If the air intake mods dont affect warranty why should they care if I cut a hole in the flare? If I have a wreck and damage the flare it does not void the warranty. I have considered the options and may try to get more air under the fender but the hole needs to be bigger going into the inner fender so they would see that anyway. My dealer installs intakes and throttle bodies and cranks up torsion bars and none of that effects warranty. Corrugated flex hose is really restrictive. Smoothe bore is best. I dont think in the wheel well would be good too much mud and gunk flys around in there but maybe somewhere up front. I think I will go wheelin tomorrow and think about it.
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I think wpage is saying to run a pipe directly from your your passinger duct (right below your turn signal) into the fender area. This would flood this volume with cooler air.
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09-23-2006, 04:47 PM
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Re: Exhaust,intake,throttle body spacer
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Here is a mock up. Im going to have to use a smaller scoop, maybe! I used a piece of an old grill on the truck scoop. H3 will need a mesh screen of some sort to filter out bugs, or not. Water will drop out in the box if it makes it that far or can insert a plug for really wet weather if it scares me. It should drop in the gap between the scoop and inner fender. It does on the truck.
I only have 3400 miles on the H3 I cant quite get up the nerve to cut a hole yet. I found that painting the scoop with matching paint made it last a lot longer. Just another crazy idea. I mean if you want outside air this will work. I will post pictures of what they make for my H3 Tuesday. They are probably going to make it an open shield type. Their idea is more air is better even if some of it is engine heated. The air under there should exchange at a good rate so we will see. I like the idea of the stock box for offroad. Just need to open up the thru the fender snoot. Im working on that whether I use the scoop or not.
On the Dodge Ram it was Ramair I guess this would be Humair? Now if we could actually use the fake air intake..............
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Where you show your mock up. Is where your stock cold air intake is located in the fender wall. Look from inside your engine compartment. In the air handler there is a 2.5" opening that leads to a air conditioning type filter that connects to a air plenum (chamber) between fender and wheel housing.
If you cut in at that point you may want to 1st pull off your fender to be certain to enter where you should. Otherwise you may miss your mark and have issues... 
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09-23-2006, 08:18 PM
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Re: Exhaust,intake,throttle body spacer
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Where you show your mock up. Is where your stock cold air intake is located in the fender wall. Look from inside your engine compartment. In the air handler there is a 2.5" opening that leads to a air conditioning type filter that connects to a air plenum (chamber) between fender and wheel housing.
If you cut in at that point you may want to 1st pull off your fender to be certain to enter where you should. Otherwise you may miss your mark and have issues... 
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That is the "hole" idea!
On the truck I just put a pilot hole from the inside in line with the inner fender hole. I do think a hidden intake could work. There of course could be issues of submerging it which I dont plan to do. Im going to have to pull the inner wheel well liner to get in there and see how. A snorkle of some sort would work as well but Im not sure how it would look and the issues of the length of it.
I ordered some flares that came with metal/plastic push fasteners to replace the one time use ones on there now. Im going to see if they will send me some extras.
Thanks for all the input. I really enjoy the chance to discuss the H3 with other owners. This seems to be a popular subject.
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09-23-2006, 10:14 PM
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Re: Exhaust,intake,throttle body spacer
If you have not had this apart here is the "snorkle" end that goes into the inner fender. I stuck my hand down in the fender and all I felt was the back of the park/turn signal lamp. There ya go just take out the light and you got air! Trying to come up from the hole in the front cowl would be tough for clearance reasons and dirty wet air down that low. I really dont see how the air was getting in there except for a few small stamped holes and gaps. They had a foam seal like for what? Maybe the obvious to keep out some heated air but everything in there is heated. Im sure some engineer had a plan. I took off the snorkle just for grins because I want the stock lid on the box. It really muffels the sound back down to acceptable.
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09-23-2006, 10:21 PM
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Re: Exhaust,intake,throttle body spacer
Snorkle removed. All of this together may finally add up to 2 mpg which would be nice but probably just fun. That is why I bought my H3.
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09-24-2006, 12:22 PM
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Re: Exhaust,intake,throttle body spacer
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If you have not had this apart here is the "snorkle" end that goes into the inner fender. I stuck my hand down in the fender and all I felt was the back of the park/turn signal lamp. There ya go just take out the light and you got air! Trying to come up from the hole in the front cowl would be tough for clearance reasons and dirty wet air down that low. I really dont see how the air was getting in there except for a few small stamped holes and gaps. They had a foam seal like for what? Maybe the obvious to keep out some heated air but everything in there is heated. Im sure some engineer had a plan. I took off the snorkle just for grins because I want the stock lid on the box. It really muffels the sound back down to acceptable.
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You hit the nail on the head about a engineer having a idea. Many threads have eluded to this mystery intake. How to increase air flow w/o a turbo will certainly improve performace. Did you find room to insert your fender scoop and hit this existing "snorkle"?
Like to know what that engineer was going off the end of that pvc end pipe! 
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09-24-2006, 05:31 PM
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Re: Exhaust,intake,throttle body spacer
Oh I can make it come out right. I was not going to connect them. Just provide air into the space between flare and inner fender like on my truck. That way any bugs or FOD (foreign object debri) and water fall out by gravity and the engine can suck outside air instead of ambient air trapped in there. I really was not expecting the air to "ram" into the engine with much result. I thought it would be better for the engine to pull what it needs. What the heck do I know? On the turbo idea, after driving this Cummins since 95 which is a six cylinder but a big one Im not sure it would help at low rpms. It takes some throttle before the turbo spools up. Towing it works great because the engine has to work so calls on the turbo to boost. Just my imagination at work.
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