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09-30-2006, 08:42 PM
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Re: which Nav is easier on the install?
i have the pineer avic-z1. dont have a pic with me but i can post later. I havent had any problems with it, had it since july. GPS is accurate. Lots of features. There are 2 ways to bypass the unit depending on the manufacture date( if early build it will cost you either 30 bucks, or if you do it youself free, and if its later build the bypass is just inserting a wire and grounding it) both simple and everything is unlocked all the time, including dvd. I installed it myself, had never installed anything in a car before. Took me about 6-7 hours with breaks, some of the more knowledgeble people on here said it took them 4 hours, so you can judge teh difficulty.
if you have any more specif questins id be hapy to help.
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09-30-2006, 08:51 PM
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Re: which Nav is easier on the install?
i am leaning towards the Pioneer Z1, i think both are great though. i will be scanning ebay for a good deal. figure i could get one of these while i wait to sell my FX35 before getting the hummer..
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10-01-2006, 01:17 AM
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Re: which Nav is easier on the install?
Garmin makes the best Nav  unit. Havent installed in my H3.
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10-01-2006, 01:24 AM
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Re: which Nav is easier on the install?
i have heard alot of good things about the garmin units, but the bad thing with them is they dont integrate into the dash well, their like tomtom, just take up space.
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10-01-2006, 03:09 PM
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Re: which Nav is easier on the install?
Won't disagree that Garmin makes the best GPS units for the personal market, I have the 60CSX with the new Sirf III chip. However, for a road naviagtion unit you do not need the accuracy that a 60CSX will render.
Road naviagation units are designed to track to the road, so even if my Garmin shows the Pioneer unit I have is about 20 feet off, the Pioneer still shows you on the correct road. You also do not require as many channels and WAAS capability for car units.
In addition, I don't believe Garmin makes a unit that integrates into the dash panel and is also a radio head unit.
Now to the original question; I'm going to guess the installation of either the Eclipse or the Pioneer AVIC units is about the same. Adapters are required for the Pioneer install, and I believe adapters are also required for the Eclipse install. The rear camera will have to have the wires run into the vehicle to the head unit.

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10-01-2006, 06:22 PM
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Re: which Nav is easier on the install?
Does either the Eclipse or the Pioneer interface with the OnStar? My OEM Nav screen shows the phone number you are voice dialing and will show you the time units remaning on phone and who knows what other info (I havent used any of the other OnStar features yet).
Also is it just as easy to hook up a rear camera to the OEM unit as it is to either the Eclipse or the Pioneer?
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10-01-2006, 06:31 PM
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Re: which Nav is easier on the install?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hal
Does either the Eclipse or the Pioneer interface with the OnStar? My OEM Nav screen shows the phone number you are voice dialing and will show you the time units remaning on phone and who knows what other info (I havent used any of the other OnStar features yet).
Also is it just as easy to hook up a rear camera to the OEM unit as it is to either the Eclipse or the Pioneer?
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My eclipse does not show anything when using onstar.
When using on star the eclipse screen goes black tilts in and shuts off untill you are done with onstar.No big deal No one calls me on it and I know who im calling. 
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