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10-10-2006, 10:22 PM
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Re: 13 year old fires AK47 in school
This idea kind of weirds me out. Though so long as our current "Governor" is in place there is no way it would ever happen. He wont even let the citizens carry guns, let alone school teachers. Either way I feel that Mr. Lasee is trying to equate issues that occur in other parts of the world for very different reasons. The reason school faculty members are armed in Israel is to PROTECT the children from outside extremists, not to protect themselves from threats within the school itself. This idea will ride of in the sunset real quick with Doyal in office. But, if Mark Green the Republican incumbent get elected (and he'd better), we'll see what he does with this.
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Rep. Lasee: To Introduce Bill To Allow School Personnel To Carry Weapons
10/4/2006
Contact Rep. Frank Lasee: 1-(608) 266-9870
In Wake of School Shootings Lawmaker Says All Options Should Be on the Table to Prevent School Violence
Madison?Following three violent school shooting that struck the nation in the past two weeks, including one in a small rural town in Wisconsin, State Representative Frank Lasee (R-Bellevue) announced his plans to introduce legislation that will allow teachers, principals, administrators, and other school personnel to carry concealed weapons. The lawmaker said that while his idea may not be politically correct, it has worked effectively in other countries.
?To make our schools safe for our students to learn all options should be on the table,? said Lasee. ?Israel and Thailand have well trained teachers carrying weapons and keeping their children safe from harm. It can work in Wisconsin.?
Israeli teachers and parent volunteers have been carrying concealed weapons in their classrooms for twenty five years. Before teachers armed themselves, schools in the West Bank and Gaza Strip had been repeatedly attacked by Palestinian terrorists. Hundreds of children were killed. Not one child has been harmed by gunfire in an Israeli school since. Thailand followed Israel?s lead and allowed their teachers to carry guns for protection after their schools were targeted by Muslim extremists. The results have been the same ? less violence and a safer learning environment for their children. In both countries several terrorist attacks have been prevented by anonymous well trained teachers who carry concealed weapons.
?The element of surprise is a powerful tool,? added Lasee. ?In Israel and Thailand several lives have been saved because criminals don?t want to attack schools where well-trained marksmen and women may return fire.?
Lasee said he wants to bring this proven program to Wisconsin. Lasee?s bill will NOT require all teachers and school personnel to carry weapons. It will simply give them the option. The proposal will require stringent training both on the range and in the classroom for any school employee who wants to carry concealed.
?We have a duty to protect our children,? said Lasee. ?If we truly want to make our schools safe havens for learning, we should give our teachers and school employees access to the tools and training they need to protect our kids from harm.?
The lawmaker said he will offer the bill for co-sponsorship when the state legislature reconvenes early next year.
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10-10-2006, 10:25 PM
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Re: 13 year old fires AK47 in school
I agree, it will go nowhere no matter who is in office. It was an idea, I liked it, but the anti-gun crowd will come out like crazy against this one.
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10-10-2006, 10:32 PM
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I dont think the anti gun groups could really do too much. In Wisconsin they really wield no power. This is a blue collar hunting state, people like their guns up here. The only reason that CCW did not pass is cause of Doyal, the citizens wanted it. Issues like that make me wonder why the fu*k I vote. I vote to elect people that will represent my interests, but it seems that it does not matter. Once elected officals are in they just seem to do as they please, not as I the citizen and voter want. Then again I did not vote for Doyal, this time around Mark Green has my vote. He seems like he has much better ideas.
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I agree, it will go nowhere no matter who is in office. It was an idea, I liked it, but the anti-gun crowd will come out like crazy against this one.
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I dont think the anti gun groups could really do too much. In Wisconsin they really wield no power. This is a blue collar hunting state, people like their guns up here. The only reason that CCW did not pass is cause of Doyal, the citizens wanted it. Issues like that make me wonder why the fu*k I vote. I vote to elect people that will represent my interests, but it seems that it does not matter. Once elected officals are in they just seem to do as they please, not as I the citizen and voter want. Then again I did not vote for Doyal, this time around Mark Green has my vote. He seems like he has much better ideas.
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Didn't know that about WI. Good luck, hope you get a new Gov and get a CCW you can all live with.
Kansas had the same problems, but they overrode the Veto this year to finally pass a CCW.
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Can someone explain to me why school shootings seem to happen in waves????  Think about it, it seems like everytime on school shooting happens a bunch of others quickly follow. I dont know if kids see all the other attention that kids who shot up a school got and then do it themselves??? Why would that matter. But on the other hand that does not matter, any kid that shoots up a school will get front page attention nationwide. It doesnt matter if your the first, last, or any where in between. I'd really like to know why when one kid shoots up a school that a bunch of others follow. Its like kids sit waiting and wanting to shoot up their school, but wait until some other kid does it first before acting themselves. I dont get it, i really dont get it.
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Can someone explain to me why school shootings seem to happen in waves????  Think about it, it seems like everytime on school shooting happens a bunch of others quickly follow. I dont know if kids see all the other attention that kids who shot up a school got and then do it themselves??? Why would that matter. But on the other hand that does not matter, any kid that shoots up a school will get front page attention nationwide. It doesnt matter if your the first, last, or any where in between. I'd really like to know why when one kid shoots up a school that a bunch of others follow. Its like kids sit waiting and wanting to shoot up their school, but wait until some other kid does it first before acting themselves. I dont get it, i really dont get it.
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Well, three of the five (counting this kid with the AK) school shootings were adults, not kids. Not sure if the others were in any type of grouping; other than the adult shootings.
-- Oct. 2, 2006: (Adult)
-- Sept. 29, 2006:
-- Sept. 27, 2006: (Adult)
-- Aug. 24, 2006: (Adult)
-- March 21, 2005:
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-- April 24, 2003:
--August 22, 2000:
-- May 26, 2000:
-- April 20, 1999:
-- May 21, 1998:
-- May 19, 1998:
-- March 24, 1998:
-- Dec. 1, 1997:
-- Oct. 1, 1997:
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