OK, now that's just mean Rush!

[funkzilla]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

No, you need to have listened to his show to understand the context of the statement. While I find Rush to be quite full of himself most of the time and usually listen to him only once in a while, what he said is dead on. Michael J. Fox is being used by the lieberals on this one. The misinformation being knowingly & willfully spewed by the Democrats is unbelievable. In a nutshell, the type of embryonic stem cell therapy that Michael J. is crying about is well known to cause tumors downstream of the injection point and is proven to be ineffective. There is a much more effective and promising therapy that uses adult basal cells, but the f*cking lieberals NEVER say a god damn word about that - they continually piss & moan about how President Bush won't fund the embryonic stem cell research. Well, guess what? There's no private funding for it either. Know why? Because it doesn't work and no matter how much money is thrown at it won't change that. So in closing, Michael J. Fox is being used like a puppet in an attempt to cast president Bush in a bad light on this. I don't see either of the c*nts, Nancy Pelosi or Hillary, diverting any funds to this.

The issue is quite a bit more complicated than that...your info is also a little slanted...MJF and others are looking to remove the ban on government funding of embryonic stem cell research. You are giving one argument that the right has spit out to attempt to scare people into falling in line.

To say that someone is faking a condition like that is just f'ed up. MJF admits that he foregos his meds to demonstrate the illness in its raw form. Not everyone has the money or ability to get the meds to cope.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by funkzilla

The issue is quite a bit more complicated than that...your info is also a little slanted...MJF and others are looking to remove the ban on government funding of embryonic stem cell research. You are giving one argument that the right has spit out to attempt to scare people into falling in line.

To say that someone is faking a condition like that is just f'ed up. MJF admits that he foregos his meds to demonstrate the illness in its raw form. Not everyone has the money or ability to get the meds to cope.

Give me a f'ing break. So he forgoes his meds (but conveniently forgets to let the viewer know this). BS!!!! It's pure acting. His movements are voluntary and controlled, not jerky.

This issue is not complicated, it's very simple.

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by funkzilla

The issue is quite a bit more complicated than that...your info is also a little slanted...MJF and others are looking to remove the ban on government funding of embryonic stem cell research. You are giving one argument that the right has spit out to attempt to scare people into falling in line.

To say that someone is faking a condition like that is just f'ed up. MJF admits that he foregos his meds to demonstrate the illness in its raw form. Not everyone has the money or ability to get the meds to cope.

Reading comprehension owns you. Rush NEVER said MJF was faking. And for you and everyone else that has bitten on the baited hook and run with it you should all be ashamed.

Do some research on the type of embryonic stem cell therapy the left is pissing & moaning about. I sure as hell wouldn't want that stuff injected into myself.

WhyTF would someone want to throw money at something that's proven not to work? Maybe they just want an issue to argue that they know that to the uninformed sounds bad and the other side won't change their stand on.

[funkzilla]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

Reading comprehension owns you. Rush NEVER said MJF was faking. And for you and everyone else that has bitten on the baited hook and run with it you should all be ashamed.

Do some research on the type of embryonic stem cell therapy the left is pissing & moaning about. I sure as hell wouldn't want that stuff injected into myself.

WhyTF would someone want to throw money at something that's proven not to work? Maybe they just want an issue to argue that they know that to the uninformed sounds bad and the other side won't change their stand on.

I think I have done the best research possible...living with it. If you have any questions call UT Southwestern's MS clinic and have a talk with them regarding ES and how it has not been fully utilized. So until you actually have a condition that could someday be cured by ES, quit suckin on the teet of mainstream republican press.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by funkzilla

I think I have done the best research possible..

Your research sucks then.

[funkzilla]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

Your research sucks then.

no ****...watching your spouse slowly fall apart does suck. thanks for your concern

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by funkzilla

no ****...watching your spouse slowly fall apart does suck. thanks for your concern

what does that have to do with your shitty research?

and You're Welcome.

[funkzilla]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

what does that have to do with your shitty research?

and You're Welcome.

Living with an illness day to day is the best way to really understand.

Kind of like if I was to try to tell you what it is like to be a fat bastard with a limited IQ and no job...

Your welcome.

[KenP]

I have a problem with us, the viewers of the commercial, not being given the facts of the commercial.

Where's Christopher Reeve?

[funkzilla]

Originally Posted by KenP

I have a problem with us, the viewers of the commercial, not being given the facts of the commercial.

Where's Christopher Reeve?

I agree. He should have said he was not on his meds, so folks could see what others have to deal with.

The main argument most have is the destruction of the human embryo...so they quote the same med journal over and over that states that early indications showed issues with the injections (they and now looking at gene interaction with the stems...not injecting btw). The embryos are being flushed anyway from millions of people who are going thru fertility treatments...so if it is getting flushed why cant it at least get used in research.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by funkzilla

I agree. He should have said he was not on his meds, so folks could see what others have to deal with.

The main argument most have is the destruction of the human embryo...so they quote the same med journal over and over that states that early indications showed issues with the injections (they and now looking at gene interaction with the stems...not injecting btw). The embryos are being flushed anyway from millions of people who are going thru fertility treatments...so if it is getting flushed why cant it at least get used in research.

We could talk to you about it, but we don't have MS. Sorry!

[KenP]

Originally Posted by funkzilla

The embryos are being flushed anyway from millions of people who are going thru fertility treatments...so if it is getting flushed why cant it at least get used in research.

I'm very, very conservative, but I have to agree. Put the garbage to use.

[Mrs.ssippi]

Originally Posted by funkzilla

I think I have done the best research possible...living with it. If you have any questions call UT Southwestern's MS clinic and have a talk with them regarding ES and how it has not been fully utilized. So until you actually have a condition that could someday be cured by ES, quit suckin on the teet of mainstream republican press.

I understand the need to do research and the money that is needed for that, but don't you think they can go about it a different way. How would you like to have PD, MS. or LGD and then have to deal with a second problem ie: tumors. I don't think so. And I'm not even talking about the un-ethical or ethical points on this. I will not even open that can of worms, I'm just talking about the health of someone that is already sick. Why not take it from the blood from the embilical cords of all of these babies being born everyday. You know I did not save any cord blood from both of my children someone could have taken that and tried to get all of "the good stuff" from it. I would have signed it over. To me that would be just like organ donations. My point is there are other ways to get the cells that the doctors need.

And I do think the Michael J Fox deal is just bad, so now we have reached the point that we go beyond the normal bad cut throat politics and now it becomes a freak show. That is just not right. Do we show women with their bare chest and scars after they had a breast removed? No that would never be aloud, but to me it is the same thing.

[GeorgeSSSS]

Rush has it right. Fox is putting out phoney info about a tragic disease because he thinks no one will call him on it. Now he's caught, like his goombah Dan Rather, and he can't wiggle out.

[usetosellhummer]

I think they are doing very little to look for a cure or to prevent anything. The drug companies along with any health care in this country have become public traded profit driven companies. It is more profitable to comeout with new treatment drugs for what is killing us so it is more profitable. when is the last time you heard of a cure for anything? with the level of tech this country has it is very hard to belive. I like rush, he is a old DJ like me. He just found a great act. I work in the media, listen to me "we make stuff up" all the time.

[KenP]

Originally Posted by usetosellhummer

I think they are doing very little to look for a cure or to prevent anything. The drug companies along with any health care in this country have become public traded profit driven companies. It is more profitable to comeout with new treatment drugs for what is killing us so it is more profitable. when is the last time you heard of a cure for anything? with the level of tech this country has it is very hard to belive. I like rush, he is a old DJ like me. He just found a great act. I work in the media, listen to me "we make stuff up" all the time.

If I owned a drug company, I sure as hell wouldn't want a cure for cancer, aids, Parkinson's, etc. Let me keep selling my drugs!!!!

[Mrs.ssippi]

Originally Posted by KenP

If I owned a drug company, I sure as hell wouldn't want a cure for cancer, aids, Parkinson's, etc. Let me keep selling my drugs!!!!

X2, you would not believe how much we spend on drugs in this house.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by usetosellhummer

I think they are doing very little to look for a cure or to prevent anything. The drug companies along with any health care in this country have become public traded profit driven companies. It is more profitable to comeout with new treatment drugs for what is killing us so it is more profitable. when is the last time you heard of a cure for anything? with the level of tech this country has it is very hard to belive. I like rush, he is a old DJ like me. He just found a great act. I work in the media, listen to me "we make stuff up" all the time.

Whoa there! The US is not responsible for finding the cure for everything.

Take a look around the world, where there are no barriers, and money is thrown at trying to find cures and there's still no answers.

Nevermind, as with everything, conspiracies make it all more palatable.

[KenP]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

Nevermind, as with everything, conspiracies make it all more palatable.

The Bush administration is supplying Iran and Korea with plutonium. It's true!!! I read it on the inturdweb.

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by funkzilla

I think I have done the best research possible...living with it. If you have any questions call UT Southwestern's MS clinic and have a talk with them regarding ES and how it has not been fully utilized. So until you actually have a condition that could someday be cured by ES, quit suckin on the teet of mainstream republican press.

Harvard University is mainstream republican press? That article I quote was also in the Detroit Free Press, a well known liberal rag, and the Detroit News, a well known conservative rag.
It is not a mainstream republican article!