Wireless Start-Up?

[H3.007]

Do you have DEI's number? I stopped over to Circuit City the other day

and I think they tried to feed me a line of BS as well. I'd lik to chat with DEI and then the manager at CC - and his f'n goats.

[mountainbiker]

Originally Posted by H3.007

Do you have DEI's number?

http://www.directed.com/contact/default.asp
1-800-876-0800, 1-760-598-6200 (Vista, CA)

[f5fstop]

My factory passkey system is still active; in other words, without A key, the vehicle will not run (starts/stalls).
The VIPER system requires me to insert the key, and push the hidden bypass button to start the vehicle if the alarm is sounding. To be honest, I can't remember if it cranked or just didn't start, this feature was demonstrated by the installer months ago. All I can say is it would not start and turn off the alarm, until he pressed the button a certain number of times.

[H3.007]

Thanks for the info MountainBiker!!

[H3.007]

I just spoke with the dealership from which I bought my H3. They told me they are very, very wary of remote starters as they can damage or interrupt proper computer system and systems communication on the H3s and many other vehicles. Their response is below:

"I distrust aftermarket remote start systems - period.

Over the years, I have had bad experiences with them both in malfunctions of the units themselves, and collateral damages that they can cause. If one of these systems were to damage any other system in your vehicle, your warranty would be void on that system. Furthermore, if there is even the doubt that the remote start system caused collateral failure your warranty of that failure would be called into question.

Additionally, if you were to defeat the factory theft system in order to make the aftermarket remote start system function (as most of them do) there may be insurance ramifications if you vehicle were ever stolen.

Overall these are my feelings. Although the remote start feature is sure convenient (especially in the winter months) vehicles have become so advanced that any ?foreign? system becomes an unwelcome system (as it does not play well with the others). Your H3 speaks across a class 2 data line where all of the modules (read- computers) ?speak? to each other and ?handshake?. Just as if in a verbal conversation with a group of people, you would not be able to understand someone speaking Mandarin Chinese."

This guy has been very helpful in the past. Is he being overly cautious or is there real concern here? I'd hate to blow the warranty.

Thx!

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by H3.007

I just spoke with the dealership from which I bought my H3. They told me they are very, very wary of remote starters as they can damage or interrupt proper computer system and systems communication on the H3s and many other vehicles. Their response is below:

"I distrust aftermarket remote start systems - period.

Over the years, I have had bad experiences with them both in malfunctions of the units themselves, and collateral damages that they can cause. If one of these systems were to damage any other system in your vehicle, your warranty would be void on that system. Furthermore, if there is even the doubt that the remote start system caused collateral failure your warranty of that failure would be called into question.

Additionally, if you were to defeat the factory theft system in order to make the aftermarket remote start system function (as most of them do) there may be insurance ramifications if you vehicle were ever stolen.

Overall these are my feelings. Although the remote start feature is sure convenient (especially in the winter months) vehicles have become so advanced that any ?foreign? system becomes an unwelcome system (as it does not play well with the others). Your H3 speaks across a class 2 data line where all of the modules (read- computers) ?speak? to each other and ?handshake?. Just as if in a verbal conversation with a group of people, you would not be able to understand someone speaking Mandarin Chinese."

This guy has been very helpful in the past. Is he being overly cautious or is there real concern here? I'd hate to blow the warranty.

Thx!

Tis the truth he speaks. However, any aftermarket system, such as my VIPER alarm and even my AVIC-Z1, can cause a problem with the electrical system.
However, if the installer knows his vehicles and products, and can stand by his/her installation, there should be no problems. Using places like Best Buy, Circuit City, ABC Applicances, etc., is not what I would consider a good move. Sorry I may be generalizing all the stores, but the ones I have spoken to in the past, were not qualified to install new speakers, let alone a complicated system such as a DEI manufactured alarm/remote starter system.

[H3.007]

I am starting to realize that some of these "experts" at CC and the such are boneheads they have hored off of the street. How does one know if they are certified to do the work?

It seems lik they have one guy who does know what he is talking about and the rest don't. I'd go to an independent dealer but what would happen if I was on the other side of the state or country for that matter and something happened to the system? If I have it installed at a national chain, they would be able to more easily address the problem and honor the warranties on parts and labor, yes?

This is just my head spinning too fast with too many ands, ifs, and buts; however, I would like to make the best move for long term investment.

To be fair to CC, and I am very hesitant to do so after all of this recent BS, they did install my starter in the Explorer and I never once had a problem.

This is such a pain in the pants hanger.