For the Pennsylvanians

[partsguy]

You forgot the propertiy tax relief that was to come around because of Rendell...............What a knucklehead!

[NewHummerGuy]

Not trying to be a smartass (or dumbass) depending on how you look at it...

But, how does one regulate this???? Someone follows with a stopwatch or the car automatically would cut off??????

Can't wait. We have some of the worst air quality in the nation. Hopefully they'll pass the no-diesel-idle rule soon too, which would allow diesels to idle only 15mins/hour, or something like that...

[BlueHUMMERH2]

Originally Posted by NewHummerGuy

Not trying to be a smartass (or dumbass) depending on how you look at it...

But, how does one regulate this???? Someone follows with a stopwatch or the car automatically would cut off??????

Can't wait. We have some of the worst air quality in the nation. Hopefully they'll pass the no-diesel-idle rule soon too, which would allow diesels to idle only 15mins/hour, or something like that...

I suspect something like that. How do they know you've spent 4 hours in a 2 hour parking space? They monitor. We could just be like NY and completely cut off diesel idling.

[BlueHUMMERH2]

Why diesel pollution is dangerous:

http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=36089

Where we stand as far as air quality in PA:

http://lungaction.org/reports/sota05...ml#anncitiespp

[BlueHUMMERH2]

PA DEP information on diesel idling:

http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deput...ars/idling.htm

[BlueHUMMERH2]

Patriot News Editorial about Diesel Idling:

http://www.pennlive.com/editorials/p...230.xml&coll=1

Support by some of Central PA's biggest companies:
http://www.cleanairboard.org/anti-idle.html

Anti-Idling Resolution

By concerned representatives of the transportation industry in Cumberland County

Recognizing the important advantages of eliminating unnecessary diesel engine idling, we agree to promote better air quality by doing the following:


Administer anti-idling training to drivers and owner operators in our fleets


Post “no unauthorized idling” signs in highly visible areas


Inform drivers that enter the premises of the anti-idling policy by signage, verbal or written notice

Notify contracted pickup and delivery companies of our anti-idling policy (this would apply to warehouses, distribution centers)


Monitor and reinforce with the drivers and companies that don’t comply.

Jesse Keen, Keen Transport

Ed Botchie, Cressler Trucking

Dale Stitzel, Jr. , Keystone National Lease

David Gray, Cumberland Truck Equipment Co.

Joe Peduzzi, Cumberland Truck Equipment Co.

Lawrence B. Shutt, Cummins Power Systems Inc.

Dave Metzler, Carlisle Carrier Corporation

LLG Frank Fry, Giant Food Stores

Elwood Snelbaker, XpedX International Paper

Dave Bates, Old Dominion Freight Line

Don Sierer, Old Dominion Freight Line

Gary Mitchell, Kenworth of PA

John D. Taylor, Penn Detroit Diesel

Jeff Lauver, Cleveland Brothers Equipment Co.

Bill Keen, Keen Transport

Bob Wertz, Daily Express

Kathleen McGinty, Secretary, Department of Environmental Protection

[KenP]

Originally Posted by BlueHUMMERH2

Why diesel pollution is dangerous:

http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvLUK9O0E&b=36089

Where we stand as far as air quality in PA:

http://lungaction.org/reports/sota05...ml#anncitiespp

What's funny is that CA, with all it's environmental whackos places 14 counties in the top 25 worst polluting counties.

[DDWH]

Originally Posted by KenP

What's funny is that CA, with all it's environmental whackos places 14 counties in the top 25 worst polluting counties.

Actually those areas of Central Cali have crap air quality, not because of vehicles, but because they are heavy AG areas....Even if everyone walked the air would still be jacked.

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by DDWH

Actually those areas of Central Cali have crap air quality, not because of vehicles, but because they are heavy AG areas....Even if everyone walked the air would still be jacked.

What's AG? Agriculture

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by NewHummerGuy

Not trying to be a smartass (or dumbass) depending on how you look at it...

But, how does one regulate this???? Someone follows with a stopwatch or the car automatically would cut off??????

Can't wait. We have some of the worst air quality in the nation. Hopefully they'll pass the no-diesel-idle rule soon too, which would allow diesels to idle only 15mins/hour, or something like that...

If they wanted to be real asses about it, it would/could be computer controlled since this is aimed at commercial and OHV vehicles anyway.

It would log it and fine the owners or something like that. Or more simply they would hire idle patrollers. Who would drive around and find trucks idling and sit there with a camera and then arrest them after 15 minutes.

Some things just aren't thought through very logically and are "feel good" measures at best.