whats a better offroader......

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Originally Posted by PhilD

But in stock form it is generally not as capable as the H2 on the trail, so your logic kind of falls down, if you are basing your choice on off-road ability, as you seem to be.

I speak only of the appearance of the H3. IMHO that is the only positive thing it has going for it.

So you think the Trail Rated Liberty is an off-road vehicle?

Sadly, the Liberty wears the Jeep badge, much to my embarrassment. I concur.

... most buy a Hummer for all round ability ...

What are you, kidding me? All-round at WHAT? Taking up entire lanes of traffic? Bringing tears to the eyes of every "Tread Lightly" supporter? Gouging huge holes in the pockets of every owner? Oh wait ... maybe at transporting that rare American family with 8 kids and a dog, but still sadly unable to park in the supermarket's alloted space when they go food shopping, because the damn things are just too big? Or maybe all-round at attracting every gas guzzler tax available on our fair earth. And I would be remiss if I didn't mention that the design team, instead of coming up with an original facade, had to COPY the well known Jeep grill in a lame attempt to snatch comparisons and turn heads.

You came to a Hummer forum and spouted the usual Hummers are crap line that we've all heard a 1000 times ...

Maybe so, but how often do you hear it from someone who actually outwheeled the Hummer top-of-the-line in a vehicle that cost 1/10 of its price, AND had to rescue the whale to boot? You've heard it 1000 times because the truth never gets old.