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Old 11-28-2006, 10:29 PM
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Good luck in getting one. I ordered one a month ago, and after two weeks, the company refunded my money. They had been told they would be available sometime in Oct, then Nov, then Dec; I decided I would prefer to wait with my money in my hands. I also called Micro Heat (Farmington, MI), and they stated they had no delivery time for the aftermarket. GM is using this unit on many new Caddys, Buicks, etc., and they are having a hard time supplying them.

As for wipers, try the new Valeo Ultimate wipers that are good in winter, and will not lift off the windshield at speeds as a snow blade will. Talking with people who used these last winter they love 'em. GM started using them last year. Last I looked, TireRack offered them at a 2 for one sale until December 31. Snap on easily. No arms to pack with snow. I have used them now for about two weeks, and they do NOT streak, but have not tried them in snow (good thing).
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:47 PM
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Nine available on Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=250054119832
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Old 11-28-2006, 10:55 PM
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Thanks. Just wrote him to see if shipping is immediate. Makes you wonder why a large company like Ramps Plus or Truck Toys4Less can't get 'em, but some guy on ebay does?

The only thing I see wrong with the installation of the unit is, it is always connected to B+, and the system will stay on at all times. It does have an internal safety function that will shut it off if B+ drops below 12.4 volts.

From their installation/owner's manual:
AUTO MODE:
Depressing the control switch
for approximately 3 seconds,
until the light starts blinking
slowly, will activate the
Automatic mode. The LED on
the Control Switch will blink
slowly (twice per second).
HotShot heats the fluid for 30-45 seconds and then
automatically provides 6-8 applications of heated fluid,
with 6-12 seconds between each application. The HotShot
device will shut down automatically after 2.5 minutes,
or if the driver pushes the Control Switch button during
the cycle.

Standby mode:
Depress control switch button for one second or less
until the LED light comes on steady. This will activate
the Standby mode.
HotShot will then heat the fluid to a predetermined
temperature and hold it until the driver activates the
spray mechanism. The fluid will then be heated again,
which takes approximately 10-18 seconds (depending
on ambient temperature and duration of spray).
Recommended duration of spray is 3 seconds.
In Standby mode, the wipers and washer pump should
be operated manually by the driver.
Standby mode is recommended for removal of snow,
grime and mud, as well as ice build-up on wiper blades,
during driving.

The only problem I see is that if you have it in stand by mode, and you exit the vehicle, if you don't press the switch, it remains on and keeps the fluid heated. It is a safety function to shut down all operation if battery drops below 12.4 volts, which I assume could happen quickly with the amps this sucker draws (it has a 60 amp inline fuse).
I see no reason, the main power feed could not be connected through a 60 amp relay, controlled by the ignition switch.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:01 AM
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Thanks. Just wrote him to see if shipping is immediate. Makes you wonder why a large company like Ramps Plus or Truck Toys4Less can't get 'em, but some guy on ebay does?

The only thing I see wrong with the installation of the unit is, it is always connected to B+, and the system will stay on at all times. It does have an internal safety function that will shut it off if B+ drops below 12.4 volts.

From their installation/owner's manual:
AUTO MODE:
Depressing the control switch
for approximately 3 seconds,
until the light starts blinking
slowly, will activate the
Automatic mode. The LED on
the Control Switch will blink
slowly (twice per second).
HotShot heats the fluid for 30-45 seconds and then
automatically provides 6-8 applications of heated fluid,
with 6-12 seconds between each application. The HotShot
device will shut down automatically after 2.5 minutes,
or if the driver pushes the Control Switch button during
the cycle.

Standby mode:
Depress control switch button for one second or less
until the LED light comes on steady. This will activate
the Standby mode.
HotShot will then heat the fluid to a predetermined
temperature and hold it until the driver activates the
spray mechanism. The fluid will then be heated again,
which takes approximately 10-18 seconds (depending
on ambient temperature and duration of spray).
Recommended duration of spray is 3 seconds.
In Standby mode, the wipers and washer pump should
be operated manually by the driver.
Standby mode is recommended for removal of snow,
grime and mud, as well as ice build-up on wiper blades,
during driving.

The only problem I see is that if you have it in stand by mode, and you exit the vehicle, if you don't press the switch, it remains on and keeps the fluid heated. It is a safety function to shut down all operation if battery drops below 12.4 volts, which I assume could happen quickly with the amps this sucker draws (it has a 60 amp inline fuse).
I see no reason, the main power feed could not be connected through a 60 amp relay, controlled by the ignition switch.

That's what you would do, forget the manual switch and just have it turn on with the ignition.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:23 AM
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That's what you would do, forget the manual switch and just have it turn on with the ignition.


No, still use the switch, which is connected to the Hot Shot unit via two wires. The switch completes a circuit inside the unit. With a relay, when the ignition is killed, power to the unit is killed, switch resets until next startup.
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You can also buy heated windshield wipers and never have any snow buildup on or around your wipers
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:40 AM
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You can also buy heated windshield wipers and never have any snow buildup on or around your wipers


Very expensive due to replacement blades.
One thing about the Hot Shot is that it works great in the summer on bugs. Before I had ordered the one I didn't get, I viewed some writeups on RV owner websites, and those that had the Hot Shot stated the warm fluid helped to remove bug guts and prevent streaking.
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No, still use the switch, which is connected to the Hot Shot unit via two wires. The switch completes a circuit inside the unit. With a relay, when the ignition is killed, power to the unit is killed, switch resets until next startup.
No, my point was just using the unit in it's standby mode and not worry about the auto. Have it squirt it only when you spray yourself manually if you don't care to run the switch inside.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:43 AM
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I know that there are others who are more well versed than myself on this topic. However; I recently did a search on the forums about the Hot shot and found that many of the people in the H2 forums were not happy.

There were quite a few people who state it worked great, initially. But, after a few uses it stopped working. There was some mention from the manufacturer about priming after each use as the cause of the malfunction?

Just curious are there any long term owners (for an entire winter) who have been pleased?

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I know that there are others who are more well versed than myself on this topic. However; I recently did a search on the forums about the Hot shot and found that many of the people in the H2 forums were not happy.

There were quite a few people who state it worked great, initially. But, after a few uses it stopped working. There was some mention from the manufacturer about priming after each use as the cause of the malfunction?

Just curious are there any long term owners (for an entire winter) who have been pleased?

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it has a back flow valve that keeps it primed, so it shouldn't be an issue
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Old 11-28-2006, 11:30 PM
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As for wipers, try the new Valeo Ultimate wipers that are good in winter, and will not lift off the windshield at speeds as a snow blade will. Talking with people who used these last winter they love 'em. GM started using them last year. Last I looked, TireRack offered them at a 2 for one sale until December 31. Snap on easily. No arms to pack with snow. I have used them now for about two weeks, and they do NOT streak, but have not tried them in snow (good thing).

Are you using 17" Valeos on each side or 17" and 16"? Tire Rack is recommending 17" for both sides.
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Old 11-29-2006, 12:22 AM
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Are you using 17" Valeos on each side or 17" and 16"? Tire Rack is recommending 17" for both sides.

17 both sides, and the fit is ok.
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