diesel

[-=Mac=-]

Originally Posted by lennyrebel

For your info. my first reply didn't enter right it was not any different than second. Okay I forgot how thin skinned all you H3ers are. Funny how you pick out parts of my statement and others such as how you can get way more gas from cracking crude than making diesel. Also I guess you don't understand difference between possible greenhouse gases and known carcinogens from diesel particulate . And My FAther God Bless HIs sole never let any foreign junk such as vws or toyotas on his property in the 88yrs that he lived. In the future I'll confine my messages to the H2ers who have more intelligence and less belligerence. I guess cops and wannabees always want the last word and to hell with Facts .THE REBEL and PROUD OF IT

Why am I not surprised by this post?

Fact? What facts, Lenny? The fact you're WRONG about diesels, the fact you tried and FAILED to impress with your "extensive" knowledge and experience or did you have some other "facts" which only exist in your head?

Now you've finally aired your true objection... you don't like cops.

Yeah, I saw your remark on the other thread. Funny for a guy who's been on this forum for a couple of months to be making smarmy remarks about me being a newby and how ironic for YOU to be telling ME to lighten up!!

I don't know nor care why you don't like cops but if you're not man enough to deal with me for who I am, not what I do for a living, what does that say about you?

For other who wish to continue discussing the possibility of a diesel H3, maybe even explore what size/type/configuration would work best, I would like to continue this thread despite the PROUD REBEL. Please excuse my redress of Lenny's nonsense. I've found it's best to put bullies in their place quickly and move on...

-Mac

[Viet Nam Vette]

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S.

[-=Mac=-]

The Jeep Liberty is available with a 2.8-liter four-cylinder motor that provides adequate power and 26 mpg with a 4 speed automatic tranny. When I test drove a Liberty, about the only thing which impressed me was the engine and even that was only adequate.

Since the H3 comes with an inline five, I took a look for inline five diesels and found this interesting article as well as numerous articles on the Dodge Sprinter which has an inline five turbodiesel giving 154 horsepower and 243 pounds-feet of torque. Hmmmm, more HP would be nice but that torque number looks good for a start.

-Mac

[Desert Dan]

Let's see if the Holden H3 they sell in Australia has a diesel option.

I still see fewer gas stations with diesel here in CA.
I haven't seen any E 85 yellow pumps yet

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by -=Mac=-

The Jeep Liberty is available with a 2.8-liter four-cylinder motor that provides adequate power and 26 mpg with a 4 speed automatic tranny. When I test drove a Liberty, about the only thing which impressed me was the engine and even that was only adequate.

That little 4 banger diesel puts out 295 ft-lbs at 1800 rpm. That's a lot of torque for 2.8 liters !!! It's all on the low end though ... drops off really fast after the peak, but still matches the 3.5L max even at 4000 rpm. Not much HP tho ... peaks at 160 HP.

[Wisha Haddan H3]

That's one good thing about the I-5 ... it has 2 torque peaks in the most used parts of the power band (2600 & 4800 rpm). HP peaks at 5600.

Here's a chart of the 3.5 and 3.7 L engines for comparison with the Liberty's CRD

[-=Mac=-]

Thanks for posting those!! The lack of horsepower explains why the Liberty wasn't much fun on the quick highway run, especially with the auto-tranny but that torque should make it capable for wheeling.

-Mac

[Huck BB62]

I don't want an inline 5 diesel. I don't want a four banger. I want a six cylinder dmax. It's a GM company, and it wouldn't be that hard. Yeah, the H3 would cost $5k more but all I can say is this: H1 Alpha.

It would make a profound vehicle. I'd sacrifice some of the handling to get the solid axle up front too. You know, that brings this to mind, how cool would it be to have a portal driven front axle with a locker?!? Yeah, that's what I want:

H3 with 6cyl. dmax
6 speed baby Allison
14 bolt rear end with e-locker
Portal driven abbreviated front axle with e-locker
4:1 tcase
35's, stock
Removeable rear seat
Shifter on the column to give me back my console for the ham radio and cup holders

There, that's a long way towards the perfect H3 Alpha.

About there not being a market for the diesel? Yeah, right, if they did it right, they'd sell 'em like hotcakes. They're misidentifying their market. For cryin' out loud, people are putting $1000 ROOF RACKS on their vehicles!