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12-24-2006, 07:32 AM
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Re: diesel
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Originally Posted by Huck BB62
Nah, complacency is a good thing. Hell, that's what brought us AMC Matadors and Dodge Satellites while the Japanese were kicking our asses with their cars!
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No kidding... The "Big Three" spent a couple of decades learning a lesson which I'm still not convinced they've conquered... loyalty will only carry them so far.
-Mac
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12-24-2006, 07:39 AM
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Re: diesel
Not seeing much loyalty to Big 3 around here at all. Don't think diesels are a big part of a successful GM turnaround. But I'm staying tuned and hopeful for more good products like the H3.
S.
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12-25-2006, 11:09 AM
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Re: diesel
Have you ever driven a Duramax GM truck? I'd say that it has a LOT to do with GM truck sales since '01. I think that any power plant that gives fantastic power/torque and great mileage is going to help sales.
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12-28-2006, 04:46 AM
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Location: WA
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Re: diesel
GM seems to be putting all their foreign-oil-independent eggs in the E85 basket, but here in WA we don't have a single public E85 station. We do have quite a few biodiesel stations already and much more are on the way:
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Grays Harbor port readies for biodiesel plant
By RACHEL LA CORTE
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Grays Harbor County will be home to an enormous biodiesel production plant under an agreement announced Tuesday involving Seattle-based Imperium Renewables.
The plant, to be built on land owned by the Port of Grays Harbor between Aberdeen and Hoquiam, will produce 100 million gallons of biodiesel a year. Construction began recently on a plant that will produce 85 million gallons per year in Velva, N.D.
Last year, national biodiesel production was just 75 million gallons, according to the Missouri-based National Biodiesel Board. By the end of the year, that number is expected to double.
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With such momentum from Jeep and MB BlueTec, it definately seems like the General is missing the boat a bit.
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12-28-2006, 06:10 AM
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Re: diesel
This is what Hummer has decided to do. They feel that Hummer will do better over seas with a diesel. The Colorado and Canyon were developed by Isuzu. The truck version of the Isuzu has the diesel available everywhere but the US. A number of things happened around the Colorado but GM decided to build Isuzu pickups in the US in exchange for Isuzu to supply diesel engines for H3 built in South Africa. But the majority will come with the I-5 motor. I have heard nothing of a diesel in the near term for US. But other things better to come. Stay tuned.
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12-28-2006, 08:10 AM
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Re: diesel
I think GM is vastly underestimating the market for diesel engines in H3s. Yes I understand what the market studies show. I also look back and see projects that went the opposite of the market created a whole new category unto itself. I think the new younger generation of young professionals would be very interested in a vehicle like this. It's small enough to daily driver and capable to take you to your weekend hobbies off the beaten trail. When you combine the small comfortable package with a heavy duty(for size) diesel engine and beefed up axles, I think the new YPs will gladly spend a few more dollars for quality. I think that it would be a bold move by GM, but I think they would profit suprisingly by its venture.
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12-28-2006, 08:36 AM
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Re: diesel
The market studies showed good things for the Aztec, didn't they?
-Mac
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12-28-2006, 06:54 PM
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Re: diesel
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Originally Posted by H3 Builder
But other things better to come. Stay tuned.
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H3 Builder - please tell us a little more about the better things coming to the H3.
S.
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