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12-25-2006, 05:46 AM
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Re: RealWheels Brush Guard
Looks good without the inserts. However, if you want my opinion on front brush guards, that is one thing I will always stay with the OEM. The OEM is required to test their accessories for crash worthiness, and I don't mean will it hold up in a crash, I mean it can't interfere with the air bag system, and the front of the H3 has two front end sensors.
These sensors are not the ones to actually determine the deployment of the air bags, they are used to help the module determine between stage one or -stage two of a deployment. (Stage one=partial deployment-meaning less force; stage two=full deployment-meaning full force.) If the front brush guard does not collapse as designed, the front sensors may not trigger a stage two deployment, thus not allowing for full force deployment, thus causing someone to not be restrained properly in a serious crash.
Will the aftermarket brush guard affect this deployment? I can't say, all I can say is I bet they have not tested this, and they are NOT required by law; whereas GM is for all accessories that might affect crash worthiness.
Then again a winch mounted in the front could affect the front sensors too, and many have winches.
Just something to think about; hopefully, you will never need the air bags or the pretensioners.
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12-25-2006, 06:02 AM
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Re: RealWheels Brush Guard
Well, if you're going to get it even after F5's doomsday speech  , then at least buy it for much less:
http://www.amazon.com/RealWheels-Pow...8&s=automotive
BTW F5, maybe you could show/tell us where the impact force sensors are for reference? I have no idea where they are mounted to be honest.
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12-25-2006, 06:06 AM
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Re: RealWheels Brush Guard
Looks like it just mounts in the same place and way the OEM one does. Can't see how that would make it differ in a crash.
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12-25-2006, 06:17 AM
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Looks like it just mounts in the same place and way the OEM one does. Can't see how that would make it differ in a crash.
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Not how they mount, how do they collapse in a frontal collision. The SDM has milliseconds to determine to deploy or not deploy, and what force to deploy if deployment is warranted. Something too strong, may cause a stage one deployment versus a stage two, and someone may hit something hard.
In no way am I saying an aftermarket bush guard will affect the force of an air bag deployment, all I'm saying is that I know by law, the manufacturers brush guard had to pass tests to prove they would not affect air bag deployment stages. And, all I did was voice my opinion on the use of a non-OEM brush guard. I will use non-OEM equipment almost anywhere else on the vehicle, but not in the front end, in front of those sensors.
I do know if there is a crash, and a 1241 form is filed with NHTSA that states the bags did not deploy correctly, a GM product investigator will note the front brush guard is not OEM, and will notify NHTSA and chances are the case will be closed.
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12-30-2006, 04:39 AM
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Not how they mount, how do they collapse in a frontal collision. The SDM has milliseconds to determine to deploy or not deploy, and what force to deploy if deployment is warranted. Something too strong, may cause a stage one deployment versus a stage two, and someone may hit something hard.
In no way am I saying an aftermarket bush guard will affect the force of an air bag deployment, all I'm saying is that I know by law, the manufacturers brush guard had to pass tests to prove they would not affect air bag deployment stages. And, all I did was voice my opinion on the use of a non-OEM brush guard. I will use non-OEM equipment almost anywhere else on the vehicle, but not in the front end, in front of those sensors.
I do know if there is a crash, and a 1241 form is filed with NHTSA that states the bags did not deploy correctly, a GM product investigator will note the front brush guard is not OEM, and will notify NHTSA and chances are the case will be closed.
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I understand. Thanks.
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12-30-2006, 06:44 AM
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Re: RealWheels Brush Guard
I actually like the look and fit of the OEM brushguard in both black or chrome. What should I expect the price to be for the OEM one?
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12-30-2006, 09:56 PM
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Re: RealWheels Brush Guard
I went with this one because it was the only one I could find that had the winch mount. I was concerned about getting the two pieces to go together from different places. It just bolted right on. Everything lined up.
http://www.teakatoys.com/Hummer_H3_W...c-50280-wm.htm
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12-25-2006, 06:07 AM
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Re: RealWheels Brush Guard
Front radiator support, left and right side. They will have yellow connectors.
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12-25-2006, 06:39 AM
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Re: RealWheels Brush Guard
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Front radiator support, left and right side. They will have yellow connectors.
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Cool, thanks.
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12-25-2006, 07:44 AM
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Re: RealWheels Brush Guard
If I have to pick another brushguard besides the one I got now (SMA), I'll pick this one ......Manik...
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12-26-2006, 01:41 AM
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Re: RealWheels Brush Guard
Got link/price to that Manik?
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If I have to pick another brushguard besides the one I got now (SMA), I'll pick this one ......Manik...
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12-26-2006, 01:53 AM
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Re: RealWheels Brush Guard
Well that's a no brainer for me..I'll take F5 Door #1 ..The GM Engineered Brush gaurd....
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