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12-29-2006, 01:42 AM
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Re: Tire pressure monitoring through Onstar
go to this link: http://www.onstar.com/us_english/jsp/ovd/index.jsp and click on the orange circle thats on the wheel of the car thats there. a thing will pop up on how its going to be shown. it shows individual tire pressures. dont know if its gona be available withthe h3 but i think it will. just because the pressures are not displayed on the DIC does not mean that the BCM does not know what they are. Just like with oil life.
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12-29-2006, 01:55 AM
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Since I'm a good boy and reading my owners manual (all 490 pages...(Including the index) front to back.... I did read that "The Tire Pressure Monitor is not a substitute for good tire care and checking your tires once a month.
Now Read Your Manuals and get that tire gauge out and start check-en 
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12-29-2006, 02:31 AM
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Re: Tire pressure monitoring through Onstar
or check out the sample email report: http://www.onstar.com/us_english/jsp...mplereport.jsp
manual? come on, i think i know how a car works, thats for reference not for reading (as a novel). why whip out the tire gauge when it can be done for you, i dont have all the time in the world. 
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12-29-2006, 02:42 AM
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Re: Tire pressure monitoring through Onstar
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Since I'm a good boy and reading my owners manual (all 490 pages...(Including the index) front to back.... I did read that "The Tire Pressure Monitor is not a substitute for good tire care and checking your tires once a month.
Now Read Your Manuals and get that tire gauge out and start check-en 
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I checked the site he mentioned
http://www.onstar.com/us_english/jsp/ovd/index.jsp
and it implys (open to how you read it) that it will show indiviual tire pressure. It is a gray area though.
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12-29-2006, 03:03 AM
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Gray area? Ok, from what I know (and who knows it might be incorrect), but on the H3, the BCM does not read each corner, but each sensor, not knowing which corner it is located at. Which goes along with the fact that on an H3, if you rotate the four tires on the ground (no spare), you do not have to reset (reprogram) the sensors. The BCM still sees the same four recognized sensors, so it is happy.
However, if you mix in the spare, it now sees a new sensor, and does not see a known sensor, so you have to reset the sensors to be recognized by the BCM.
On those vehicles such as Caddys that do read each corner separately, and display the tire pressures for each tire separately in the DIC, when you rotate the tires, you have to reset the system, so the BCM knows the front right sensor is now at the rear left wheel location.
Now, possibly, inside the BCM there is a chip that is looking at each sensor as it was programmed, and if you don't reprogram after a rotation, it will be confused, but not know any difference since you don't do the reset. However, I have failed to see this on the GM Tech 2 scan tool, and usually, what Onstar is picking up is what can be read on the Tech 2. (Maybe I need to go back out and do some more digging on the Tech 2.)
So, if the BCM can determine which sensor is at which corner of the vehicle, then when you rotate the four on the ground, even though the TPM message stating a system problem is not displayed, you would have to reset the sensors to that particular corner of the vehicle.
However, as Viet Nam Vette implies, 30 days is too long to not check your pressures, even if a TPM message is not displayed.
I will be curious, but will not know unless someone informs me on the forum, since I canceled the worthless (my opinion) Onstar service, and told them to shove it up to where the sun does not shine.
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12-29-2006, 03:34 AM
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Gray area? Ok, from what I know (and who knows it might be incorrect), but on the H3, the BCM does not read each corner, but each sensor, not knowing which corner it is located at. Which goes along with the fact that on an H3, if you rotate the four tires on the ground (no spare), you do not have to reset (reprogram) the sensors. The BCM still sees the same four recognized sensors, so it is happy.
However, if you mix in the spare, it now sees a new sensor, and does not see a known sensor, so you have to reset the sensors to be recognized by the BCM.
On those vehicles such as Caddys that do read each corner separately, and display the tire pressures for each tire separately in the DIC, when you rotate the tires, you have to reset the system, so the BCM knows the front right sensor is now at the rear left wheel location.
Now, possibly, inside the BCM there is a chip that is looking at each sensor as it was programmed, and if you don't reprogram after a rotation, it will be confused, but not know any difference since you don't do the reset. However, I have failed to see this on the GM Tech 2 scan tool, and usually, what Onstar is picking up is what can be read on the Tech 2. (Maybe I need to go back out and do some more digging on the Tech 2.)
So, if the BCM can determine which sensor is at which corner of the vehicle, then when you rotate the four on the ground, even though the TPM message stating a system problem is not displayed, you would have to reset the sensors to that particular corner of the vehicle.
However, as Viet Nam Vette implies, 30 days is too long to not check your pressures, even if a TPM message is not displayed.
I will be curious, but will not know unless someone informs me on the forum, since I canceled the worthless (my opinion) Onstar service, and told them to shove it up to where the sun does not shine.
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12-29-2006, 03:52 AM
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12-29-2006, 07:54 AM
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Re: Tire pressure monitoring through Onstar
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BABY!!!   , hehe  , althou the man did say "who knows it might be incorrect", which i doubt very much, but i think it would have been nice if that would have worked with the 3.
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12-29-2006, 06:26 PM
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BABY!!!   , hehe  , althou the man did say "who knows it might be incorrect", which i doubt very much, but i think it would have been nice if that would have worked with the 3.
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Yeah your right...would have been nice if the 3 had that plus the H1's Central Tire Inflation System....now that would be cool for wheelen.. 
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12-29-2006, 02:50 PM
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Re: Tire pressure monitoring through Onstar
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Remember, I said I was curious, and that maybe there was something in the system I was missing with the tech 2. So, let's wait until someone gets their first air pressure monitor via Onstar. It may also be something that would be as easy as a simple click of a byte that Onstar can perform via a simple download. (They do update the Onstar module via the cell lines from time-to-time.)
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