Rear Brake/Axle Groan...

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fourfourto, this is good info. After you hear what the Hummer field rep has to tell you on Jan.5, maybe you could give him JV1's thoughts, too. I think it's ridiculous for the dealers to say, "Yeah we hear it, but it must be something inherent to the H3." What?! Would we have bought it while hearing that awful sound during a test drive? Of course not. So why do we have to live with it now? I went through an awful time with the dealer last Spring/Summer. No one should have to spend that much time at a dealership with a new vehicle. THANKFULLY ... the groan has taken a hiatus (for some reason), though I cringe everytime I come to a stop .. anticipating that grind/groan sound. Good luck, fourfourto. I hope you find something out that can help us all out, too!

[fourfourto]

good info from JV1
I will mention the proportionary valve to them friday(I dont think they like my input) Not sure how to check.

It also doesnt explain how it goes away after rotors are cut and new pads installed.
The service guy would like to replace rotors and pads he just needs an ok from hummer.
Im not 100% sure that will permentaly fix the problem,Ill see on friday.

Jv1 does your noise sound like my sound files?

Hmmm3 your noise went away or you just not listening

If a H3 driven by a deaf person comes to a stop with no one around does it make a noise ?

F5 any input on the poportionary valve ?

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Originally Posted by fourfourto

:Hmmm3 your noise went away or you just not listening

LOL .. good try, fourfourto! I watch my H3 like a hawk ...nothing passes my ears or eyes when it comes to sounds, creaks, peeling A pillar mouldings, clear-coat missing from my hood, engine misfiring, stabili-trak probs, ...etc., etc. I've had a number of things wrong with my H3. Sometimes it had gotten to the point where I'd be the 3 with my son .. coming to a red light .. and I'd turn off the XM abruptly. My son would yell, "You did that just as the good part of the song was coming on!" I'd say, "Sorry, I had to listen to hear if the groan was coming back." As I had mentioned, I had heard it come back once .. sometime in September, I think. Then, not again. I would not only HEAR it, I could FEEL it in the brake pedal. It was very bad .. just about as bad as yours. I'm amazed that more people don't have the problem.

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Just a note: The H3 has dynamic rear proportioning via the circuitry of the EBTCM and the lines to the front and rear brake calipers. If marketing says it will prevent the front end from diving, they are incorrect, and should be hung at dawn. Even, with NO front brakes, a sudden apply of the brakes will cause the front end of any vehicle to nosedive...something about physics.
The dynamic proportioning circuitry primarily takes effect during extremely heavy braking; a lot heavier than I hear here about the groaning noise. A lot heavier than my groaning noise that went away with a new t/case.

[fourfourto]

F5 didnt they have anti pitch /dive on the 95 to 99 Buick Riviera.
I noticed on the one I had (Great car 3.8 supercharged ahead of its time )it had a fitting on the struts to lock/dampen them during hard braking or acceleration.

[JV1]

From the H3 website:

DYNAMIC REAR PROPORTIONING
"Another integral part of this intelligent braking system is Dynamic Rear Brake Proportioning. This system modulates rear brake pressure and ensures that braking is balanced between the front and rear brakes. In English, that means that the nose of the H3 won't dive down while braking hard. And in any language, that means your passengers might not even notice what happened."

LOL - I guess they also have some other physics defying system. When the driver slams on the brakes, the nose locks so it doesn't dive and the passengers are held to their seats by a star wars invisible force field??? Who allows these people to write this stuff?

Fourfourto:
I listened to your sound files. I don't believe our H3 sounds the same but then again I've never stuck my head out the rear window to listen. Maybe I'll try it soon. With a noise as loud as yours it would seem that the mechanics ears would readily identify the major component that is generating the noise.

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Originally Posted by JV1

From the H3 website:

DYNAMIC REAR PROPORTIONING
"Another integral part of this intelligent braking system is Dynamic Rear Brake Proportioning. This system modulates rear brake pressure and ensures that braking is balanced between the front and rear brakes. In English, that means that the nose of the H3 won't dive down while braking hard. And in any language, that means your passengers might not even notice what happened."

LOL - I guess they also have some other physics defying system. When the driver slams on the brakes, the nose locks so it doesn't dive and the passengers are held to their seats by a star wars invisible force field??? Who allows these people to write this stuff?

Fourfourto:
I listened to your sound files. I don't believe our H3 sounds the same but then again I've never stuck my head out the rear window to listen. Maybe I'll try it soon. With a noise as loud as yours it would seem that the mechanics ears would readily identify the major component that is generating the noise.