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[Sewie]

Originally Posted by Hummer Kid

So sewie answer the question is donkey kong right or wrong on their statement on here. It depends on which statement you're referring to. You seem to be the the all american pro of 4 wheeling here Wow, is that like an official title? Does it come with a T-shirt? so please give us advice on what donkey kong said ? Why? Funny how no one has disputed anything that donkey kong said on here I wander WHY ? You're still new here so I'll give you some more time to think about it. They are the one that made it sound like you were not going to go wheeling again with out getting stuck WERENT THEY ?

Did you figure it out yet? No, then I'll help you out a bit. Donkey Kong is a bitter AE. I don't need or even want to respond to his BS.

You on the other hand, come off as a punk ass, zit popping, little troll. How about you post up some pics of that H3 of yours with the 35's. Otherwise, STFU.

[stagger_lee]

Just a side note for the Kid, wheeling ability has little to do with weight as long as you have the power and torque to move it. Weight can help you keep that rubber on the ground. Its wheelbase. Thats why the samuri does so well and full size trucks dont. It doesn't get hung up in the middle because the wheels are so close together. Fullsize vehicles have an easier time with obsticles like The Golden Crack where a stretch is needed.

And the bumper ish. I know what Donkey is saying, but the loss of angle is going to be so minimal, compared the protection to your front and rear end, and winch mount up high. Pros far outweigh cons, and looks f-in wicked tough at that.

Avoid bad take off angles and hit the obsticle at an angle not straight ahead, no big deal.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by stagger_lee

Just a side note for the Kid, wheeling ability has little to do with weight as long as you have the power and torque to move it.

wrong

you have a finite amount of contact patch area. The more weight you add to a vehicle the more that finite area has to keep grip and move. Gravity is working against that in any climbing situation, so the weight is trying to transfer downhill, causing the the truck to slide. More weight, more slide.

Weight has has a TREMENDOUS amount to do with wheeling ability. No matter how much power you apply, if the contact patches can't grip due to the overwhelming weight, you are going nowhere.

[stagger_lee]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

wrong

you have a finite amount of contact patch area. The more weight you add to a vehicle the more that finite area has to keep grip and move. Gravity is working against that in any climbing situation, so the weight is trying to transfer downhill, causing the the truck to slide. More weight, more slide.

Weight has has a TREMENDOUS amount to do with wheeling ability. No matter how much power you apply, if the contact patches can't grip due to the overwhelming weight, you are going nowhere.

In that prespective, I stand corrected. ,

[Urban Ops]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

Weight has has a TREMENDOUS amount to do with wheeling ability. No matter how much power you apply, if the contact patches can't grip due to the overwhelming weight, you are going nowhere.

[HummBebe]

So do you guys think a couple hundred lbs on the front will affect traction in this case?

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

So do you guys think a couple hundred lbs on the front will affect traction in this case?

A couple hundred "additional" lbs?

While I know Neil's stuff weighs a lot more, I can't see it weight that much more. Do you have the exact numbers - stocks with winch vs your new setup?

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

So do you guys think a couple hundred lbs on the front will affect traction in this case?

maybe 5% of the time

Costs vs. benefits

it's adding less than 5% additional overall weight, does the additional weight with a winch "outweigh" the cost you give up with the possibility that you might lose some traction due to the additonal weight in a very few instances.

Everything is all about perspective.

[Sewie]

Originally Posted by CO Hummer

A couple hundred "additional" lbs?

While I know Neil's stuff weighs a lot more, I can't see it weight that much more. Do you have the exact numbers - stocks with winch vs your new setup?

I wouldn't be surprised if it is close to 200lbs heavier than stock. Remember that she's replacing a plastic fascia with steel, then add the weight of the winch. There's still a brushguard to add as well.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by Sewie

I wouldn't be surprised if it is close to 200lbs heavier than stock. Remember that she's replacing a plastic fascia with steel, then add the weight of the winch. There's still a brushguard to add as well.

Quit talking about me like I'm not here....

[CO Hummer]

I've heard that she's worried about the additional weight. But I think her problems are more deep-seeded. She's always talking about wanting to be the 'queen' wheeler and stuff. She's got personal issues, I think.

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

So do you guys think a couple hundred lbs on the front will affect traction in this case?

It's not just the weight on the front that matters, it's also the balance front to rear. The new rack and rear bumper will help take care of that. If you do put it on a scale, get a per axle weight along with the total weight.

The contact patch from your 35s should take care of the extra traction needed with all the extra equipment (especially aired down). But I would be thinking about the t-bars and shocks, with all the extra sprung and unsprung weight. You might bounce more onthe stock suspension with it all. Weren't you looking into new t-bars a while back?

And fwiw, if you haven't switched to synthetic oil yet, now would be a good time. Your engine's going to be working a lot harder. You might also put a temp gauge in your tranny to see if a tranny cooler is in order.

[HummBebe]

Originally Posted by Wisha Haddan H3

It's not just the weight on the front that matters, it's also the balance front to rear. The new rack and rear bumper will help take care of that. If you do put it on a scale, get a per axle weight along with the total weight.

The contact patch from your 35s should take care of the extra traction needed with all the extra equipment (especially aired down). But I would be thinking about the t-bars and shocks, with all the extra sprung and unsprung weight. You might bounce more onthe stock suspension with it all. Weren't you looking into new t-bars a while back?

And fwiw, if you haven't switched to synthetic oil yet, now would be a good time. Your engine's going to be working a lot harder. You might also put a temp gauge in your tranny to see if a tranny cooler is in order.

With the Rancho's I should be able to adjust to the "9" setting and be ok.

Yes heavy duty t-bars are on the list with a 30% higher spring rate. And Rocks and I were talking about doing a dual shock set up too. It's also on the list.

Went to Synth about 20K ago. I'll talk to Miles about the tranny cooler/guage. Good idea.

[HummBebe]

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......

you poor thing......

[Bully13]

Originally Posted by HummBebe

So do you guys think a couple hundred lbs on the front will affect traction in this case?

One Way to find out...

[ROX]

Originally Posted by HummBebe
So do you guys think a couple hundred lbs on the front will affect traction in this case?

Originally Posted by Bully13

One Way to find out...

You can start by driving it up Donkey Kong's A$$ HAHA!

[timgco]

Originally Posted by Hummer Kid

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Your spelling is worse than mine!

Clean up your posts or you will get the boot. COHUMMER is one of the main mods and has asked me to let you know your fowl mounth will not be tollerated.

That is all.

[NewHummerGuy]

Theres no way hummmerkid could be an AE of one of the "regulars".

He is WAY TOO damn stupid.

[Sewie]

Originally Posted by Hummer Kid

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[SnakeH2]

Originally Posted by Hmmm3

"Bad words"?

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