Terrorists dont use credit to buy WMD!?!?

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Originally Posted by bparker

Do they think we are so stupid to believe that our govt needs the ability to track credit records of suspected terrorist in the middle east?

Originally Posted by bparker

I still cant think of a reason they need to look at our credit...

Are you implying that we are all suspected terrorists in the middle east? If you don't want them looking through your credit records, don't be a suspected terrorist from the middle east. Nuff said!

[bparker]

Roger that but the missing link I cant establish between the two is this:

Our credit reporting system is soley based and tracked for citizens of the USA and those that have a SSN# (green card holders, etc). Right? Now, having said that:

99.9% of Terrorism is financed by black market activities outside the USA none of which you will find in our Credit Reporting system here in the USA. If you are late paying your drug or arms dealer he can not report you to any of our 3 credit reporting agencies. He has other means of getting you to pay

99.9% of Terrorists are not citizens of the USA. They do not have a SSN# to report under to keep track of or any sort of credit history here in the USA.

So to me, it seems very silly to need to go looking into our credit records to find something that we know isnt there.

[NewHummerGuy]

"So to me, it seems very silly to need to go looking into our credit records to find something that we know isnt there."

Jesus bparker. Are you hiding something you are afraid will be found???????

If not then who cares

[bparker]

Thats the whole point for me.. there is nothing there to see so why make a law to see it? Thats why it was funny.. and to think we are so stupid to name it "in the acts of terrorism we need to do this" is just even more funny.

I guess "we" really are to a point of "paranoia" - holy sheet I see I am the very evident minority here and just tuning in.

Originally Posted by NewHummerGuy

"So to me, it seems very silly to need to go looking into our credit records to find something that we know isnt there."

Jesus bparker. Are you hiding something you are afraid will be found???????

If not then who cares

[bparker]

I surrender - I give in - lets just let govt and any police offical do what ever they want to us without any question as to why they want to do it.

Holy fawk I thought I would never see the day where the citizens were asking for less freedom.

Ok, I am on the bus now. Fuk it let them do what ever they want I wont ask "WHY" again.

hahahahaha

[h2co-pilot]

Originally Posted by bparker

I surrender - I give in - lets just let govt and any police offical do what ever they want to us without any question as to why they want to do it.

Holy fawk I thought I would never see the day where the citizens were asking for less freedom.

Ok, I am on the bus now. Fuk it let them do what ever they want I wont ask "WHY" again.

hahahahaha

What is the difference between saying credit cards and credit history exactly? They aren't looking at the plastic itself. The article says, It's all about records- again I'll quote:

The Pentagon and to a lesser extent the CIA have been using a little-known power to look at the banking and credit records of hundreds of Americans and others suspected of terrorism or espionage within the United States, officials said Saturday.

Records> Records that track movement and financial sponsors of cells and individuals infiltrated in our country and abroad with very bad intentions.

What does credit history mean to you exactly?

No matter that your purchases, habits and history is well documented and reviewed by the institutions that will it.

I am grateful for our offensive defense and the innovation that has taken place to do just that.

IMHO, the scenario of "Why?" with the conclusion "It's wrong." Without a shred of knowledge on the subject or any "solution" to the supposed wrong doing for the sake of the country has become an all too familiar route with certain individuals and parties. This is unfortunate.

[bparker]

Ahh, the difference would be (to me) would be Credit and Banking History in this case would be reffering the Credit Reporting institutions for lines of credit, (secured and unsecured) loans, business loans, propery loans pretty much anything with a large "credit line" associated with it that would not show as a "credit transaction" and to how well we have handeled those lines of credit. Thats about all I can think of that the 3 agencies" could offer up as far as info.

Where as, credit cards are merely a financial transaction when you make a purchase which is already tracked and reported on. We have given "the govt" lawful access to this data years ago.

Originally Posted by h2co-pilot

What is the difference between saying credit cards and credit history exactly?

[MarineHawk]

Originally Posted by bparker

Holy fawk I thought I would never see the day where the citizens were asking for less freedom.

I personally have not, and I do not know anyone who has, lost any freedoms here. What ?freedoms? have we lost? The ?we don?t know how much we?ve lost, but it might be tremendous if only we knew? theory just seems ludicrous to me after my recent trips. People there (and the Saudi populous has a lot more freedoms than much of the world) KNOW they aren?t free because they cannot do a lot of the basic things we do every day (e.g., drinking, watching women drive, attending a non-Muslim church, accessing large portions of the Internet). I suspect if you don?t even know that your freedoms have been infringed, you probably haven?t lost a lot in the grand scheme, especially in wartime. The mere suspicion that someone might look at your library card or credit history, compared to the rigid and punitive limitations imposed on much of the world?s populous seems beyond negligible to me, especially in wartime. Between Zacarias Moussaoui?s August 16, 2001 arrest and September 11, we did not search his laptop computer out of respect for his rights. Wouldn?t want to do that, it might infringe on a civil liberty. Never mind what the families of the 3,000 who died as a consequence might think about that.

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by MarineHawk

I personally have not, and I do not know anyone who has, lost any freedoms here. What ?freedoms? have we lost?

How about "due process"? How about protection from illegal search and seizure?

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by bparker

Holy fawk I thought I would never see the day where the citizens were asking for less freedom.

bparker,
Despite your stinky Doritos breath, I completely agree with you.

Everyone has completely thrown out the concept of liberty and freedom in search of a little "security". I put that in qoutes because it's clearly PERCEIVED security and not real.

So....I guess it's pretty much just you, me, and Benjamin Franklin. We should form a club.




Now....back on Topic. Do you think the American Express Gold Card is better than their gold "Rewards Plus" card? Is it worth the extras cost for the Plus version?

[bparker]

No way, Amex Blue is the best - ya know the one with the chip inside that secretly videos you havin nasty butt sex and sends it to the govt for everyone at the pentagon to watch on Fridays..

Originally Posted by CO Hummer

Now....back on Topic. Do you think the American Express Gold Card is better than their gold "Rewards Plus" card? Is it worth the extras cost for the Plus version?